2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[FNTC]

Yeah, if the front wing is based on the active one (or is active), it appears to only move the 3rd element like the Mercedes, and have two large fixed sections at the sides, creating some vorticity from the fixed edges I presume.

[NAPI10]

I don't think AM will be challenging for championships until Honda delivers potent PU like Mercedes or Ferrari.

Neweys car only started to win when Honda delivered engine same as Mercedes

U already know that Honda doesn't have potent PU like Mercedes or Ferrari. How?

[mzso]

Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.

What do you think happens when the backen of any other designs is hit? Damage, including suspension damage.

I don't think AM will be challenging for championships until Honda delivers potent PU like Mercedes or Ferrari.

Neweys car only started to win when Honda delivered engine same as Mercedes

Maybe it does already. Maybe it's better then all the rest. We don't know anything...
I don't expect 2014 differences. But not even, the sort of gap Ferrari had after cheat mode was made impossible.

[diffuser]

Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.

There is a rear crash structure and rear crash structure test they have to pass.

[sucof]

Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.

There is a rear crash structure and rear crash structure test they have to pass.

In reality those are quite far from the end of the crash structure.
I do not remember any crashes that reached so far up in the structure from the past when the cars survived. So if this breaks due to a crash, then it would have been a write off anyway.
Also, this is just higher, not further back...

[edu2703]

Aston Martin will hold a filming day at Montmeló tomorrow.

Those 200km (42 laps) will be their third day of testing, as I mentioned yesterday on the live stream.

Crawford will be driving the AMR26.

[Rodak]

Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.

There is a rear crash structure and rear crash structure test they have to pass.

It looks like the VCARB has the same rear upper wishbone mounting system as Aston Martin with a stub above the gearbox. It sort of reminds me of the old front suspension keel mount for the lower wishbone, as on the Ferrari F2005.

[Leon Kennedy]

We have a societal / cultural desire to believe there's always 'a guy' behind everything, the lone genius at the controls that can do anything and everything, just like in the movies.

Not to diminish a guy like Newey, or Brawn etc etc but especially in the modern era, these are vast teams of talented folk.

You shouldn't diminish the effect of experience and brilliance. Someone needs to make the big decisions. And that's where it matters, a lot. Ferrari had all the budget and people and infrastructure they wanted since forever.
Yet, the last time they won was in 2007 and even that was a McLaren blunder/handout.

It’s hilarious to look where McLaren and Red Bull were before Newey.

Want to talk about '97, where Williams dominated the drivers' and constructors' championships? And then what happened the following year? McLaren dominated. From one year to the next, there was one name that made the difference, and that was Adrian Newey. Can the individual make the difference? If you're the greatest engineer in the history of F1, absolutely. Just look at the rear suspension: it's crossed and has lots of spaces where it passes.the air. That's probably aerodynamic suspension, not mechanical (yes is referring to rb16b). Even engine decisions (after Honda's statements) must be related to chassis and aerodynamics, at the request of Aston (they themselves at Honda think it was Newey who asks for it). Also the front suspension in the arm where the badge board is horizontal and not vertical probably aerodynamic and not mechanical. There are several solutions that are also reminiscent of Ferrari and in my opinion there is Cardile's signature, but others are impressive, look at the rear pylons (very similar to the 2009 McLaren). There are in my opinion a lot of talented people in this team, in the last few years Aston has been one of the most interesting teams in terms of the solutions they have brought (regardless of whether they have worked or not). However, I think they need someone to lead them. I don't know if this car will be any good, a lot will depend on the engine, but regardless, Newey is Newey, let's not joke.

[zoroastar]

looking back at the claimed "huge drs advantage" that the redbull had in '23, makes me anxious to see what could be done with the active aero now, with both front and rear wings, and not just constrained to a couple of sections of the track. would it even be something that could be picked up on or would it just make your hp numbers look better

[FittingMechanics]

There will be zones where you can use that mode, it is not free to use wherever you want.

Expect FIA to play it safe.

[WardenOfTheNorth]

We have a societal / cultural desire to believe there's always 'a guy' behind everything, the lone genius at the controls that can do anything and everything, just like in the movies.

Not to diminish a guy like Newey, or Brawn etc etc but especially in the modern era, these are vast teams of talented folk.

You shouldn't diminish the effect of experience and brilliance. Someone needs to make the big decisions. And that's where it matters, a lot. Ferrari had all the budget and people and infrastructure they wanted since forever.
Yet, the last time they won was in 2007 and even that was a McLaren blunder/handout.

It’s hilarious to look where McLaren and Red Bull were before Newey.

McLaren before Newey were already a multiple WCC winning team.

I've said many times that being an aero engineer in a team where Newey works must be an awful feeling sometimes.

You could be the person who comes up with an innovative solution, which ends up on the car and all the public credit will go to..... Newey....

[sucof]

You shouldn't diminish the effect of experience and brilliance. Someone needs to make the big decisions. And that's where it matters, a lot. Ferrari had all the budget and people and infrastructure they wanted since forever.
Yet, the last time they won was in 2007 and even that was a McLaren blunder/handout.

It’s hilarious to look where McLaren and Red Bull were before Newey.

McLaren before Newey were already a multiple WCC winning team.

I've said many times that being an aero engineer in a team where Newey works must be an awful feeling sometimes.

You could be the person who comes up with an innovative solution, which ends up on the car and all the public credit will go to..... Newey....

Exactly. It is a terrible human practice to pin all the credit to one person, who did not even come up with most of the good ideas.
Just look at movies, where everyone says the actors name as x actors movie... and they receive the millions. While they would be nothing without all the people behind the camera...
I always highly disliked this.
The double diffuser was not Brawn's idea, I read somewhere that the guys name was known in inner circles.
Add to that that 2 other team did come up with the concept as well.

And as an extra: it is always bad to hail any person this much and or put them on such high pedestals. Such things are 99.9% not deserved, and is highly unhealthy.
These cars are built by more than 1000 engineers, who all had their smart ideas, solutions, to add together to make a car.

[the EDGE]

I've said many times that being an aero engineer in a team where Newey works must be an awful feeling sometimes.

You could be the person who comes up with an innovative solution, which ends up on the car and all the public credit will go to..... Newey....

How is that different for anybody working on any other team?

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[bigblue]

The double diffuser was not Brawn's idea, I read somewhere that the guys name was known in inner circles.

Funnily enough that came from a Honda engineer.

Here's Brawn talking about it (The Royal Automobile Club interview with Brawn and Fry on YouTube, add a minute on to that link at 57:18 if you want the exact time of the credit, but the preamble is interesting). Oh he also mentions "Adrian's a pretty smart cookie" as he talks about people catching up with this By the way I thoroughly recommend the whole of this interview if you're at all interested in the whole Brawn GP craziness.

Searching finds the engineer's name pretty easily, here's another interesting link at a Honda website (search for "Masayuki Minagawa" in the page).

OK, slightly off-topic perhaps, but I hope kinda interesting.

[f1isgood]

It takes decades to built a reputation like Newey has built. Once you have such a reputation it is hard to not be in the spotlight. But that also means he has experience working with hugely successful teams and a succesful set of smart people and knows exactly what will make things click. But then whether he can do it at Aston by putting the right people on the right things we will only know as that's managerial and not something he has done at Red Bull (Horner took care of it to make Newey a free bird so to say). It might be true that he gets all the spotlight but that's how the media and press work in reality especially when you have results to show for. That said, F1 itself is a sport of 1000 people. So his influence is far less than many people like to admit and think he is a one-size-fits-all solution which isn't true.