2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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mzso wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 13:59
Darth-Piekus wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 12:50
I think you might be partially right. Even though Ross Brawn has worked on aerodynamics and with wind tunnels he mostly organises the whole aerodynamic team. Who should we give credit to these car designs if not on Ross Brawn in your opinion? Do we know who designed those cars?
Rory Byrne, at Benetton and Ferrari. It's mentioned sometimes. Though he was never put on a pedestal like Newey.
Not sure about Honda/Mercedes. (Was it James Allison already?)
Don't leave Gordon Murray of Brabham fame off the list. A very innovative designer indeed.

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There are hinges visible on the hangers of the front wing's uppermost element.
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Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.

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FNTC wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:15

There are hinges visible on the hangers of the front wing's uppermost element.
https://kephost.net/p/MjI3MDIzOA.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qvWfpmKQ/Screensho ... -30-12.png

Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.
Rumor is that Aston will not use hydraulic but electronic control for the flaps

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Jambier wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:31
FNTC wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:15

There are hinges visible on the hangers of the front wing's uppermost element.
https://kephost.net/p/MjI3MDIzOA.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qvWfpmKQ/Screensho ... -30-12.png

Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.
Rumor is that Aston will not use hydraulic but electronic control for the flaps
Only because no one can see the mechanism. Which could be because the wing is fixed

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Jambier wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:31
FNTC wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:15

There are hinges visible on the hangers of the front wing's uppermost element.
https://kephost.net/p/MjI3MDIzOA.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qvWfpmKQ/Screensho ... -30-12.png

Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.
Rumor is that Aston will not use hydraulic but electronic control for the flaps
Even if it is electric, you would need some sort of an actuator to move the flaps. It doesn't work by magic.
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FrukostScones wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 15:34
Multiple reports that Honda is running the electric power limited today and not the ICE, AM's top speed so far has been 290 km/h.
from https://forums.autosport.com/topic/2292 ... ry/page-15
How would anyone know? Though I guess it's the simplest way of limiting top speed. And the ICE needs more testing, its durability is always more in doubt.

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Emag wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:40
Jambier wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:31
FNTC wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:15


https://kephost.net/p/MjI3MDIzOA.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qvWfpmKQ/Screensho ... -30-12.png

Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.
Rumor is that Aston will not use hydraulic but electronic control for the flaps
Even if it is electric, you would need some sort of an actuator to move the flaps. It doesn't work by magic.
Based on what I read from some users on this forum, if its Newey then it does not work electrically, nor hydraulically but by magic.

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I think this frong wing is provisional and Newey hidding the real solution. The front wing looks so "simple" and clean comparing the rest of the car.

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Alonso only did 12 laps in the afternoon session (61 total) Soymotor.

Disappointing. Is it true they have a filming day scheduled for tomorrow?

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Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.

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I don't think AM will be challenging for championships until Honda delivers potent PU like Mercedes or Ferrari.

Neweys car only started to win when Honda delivered engine same as Mercedes

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TyreSlip wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 20:06
Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.
Wouldn't the rear wing pillars breaking be a DNF/black flag regardless?

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SealTheRealDeal wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 20:28
TyreSlip wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 20:06
Anyone worried about the upper wishbones on the rear suspension failing if another driver hits the back end of the car? I wonder how strong the rear-wing pillar has to be in order to keep the wishbones intact.
Wouldn't the rear wing pillars breaking be a DNF/black flag regardless?
Yeah, if you break the rear wing support the race is over regardless.

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Someone asked somewhere here, if the FWAS is optional. In the regs they state "if fitted" in the relevant section. So I assume it is optional.

FNTC wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 17:15

There are hinges visible on the hangers of the front wing's uppermost element.
https://kephost.net/p/MjI3MDIzOA.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qvWfpmKQ/Screensho ... -30-12.png

Those hangers look pretty fixed to me, unless the 3rd flap just rotates around the anchor point of them, and also the last ~20cm of it is definitely fixed to the endplate. And I have not seen any actuation rod under the nose. And I haven't seen any pictures or videos with it open either. I still think it's a fixed wing for this shakedown, until I see pics of it open or with some good explanation of how it operates.
Could be, although as you say, the break in the flap is visible at the end. Why manufacture fixed hangers for what is fabricated as a moveable flap (with the obvious break). Two moving flaps, one per side, split in the middle, and the obvious splits at the sides. We don't have a clear shot of actuator linkage yet. Yes, that could be missing, but fabricating fixed hangers for a flap that already has a break and hinge on its outboard end doesn't make sense to me.

Look at he first visible upper hanger to the left of the endplate in the photo. Compare the upper foot of it with the upper foot of the hanger directly in front of it. There is color break in the upper one--likely the clearance gap of hinge geometry. The lower one looks solid.

The interesting part though is the large unmoveable section at the ends. Why minimize the moveable area? They appear to have the smallest moveable flaps of all.
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