2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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f1316 wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:53
wowgr8 wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:28
https://autoracer.it/hamilton-miglior-t ... ari-buona/
Vasseur:
"Lewis and Charles have worked in total harmony, providing precise feedback that will be fundamental for development in the coming weeks... the tests in Bahrain will give us a clearer hierarchy, But we start with the awareness that we have taken the right path."
"Right path" comment is the most positive thing we've heard from anyone at Ferrari I think. Encouraging
Agreed, that’s good to hear. I do think these subtle indications usually turn out to mean something when you look back. I think Ferrari in particular are aware that their car here was built for reliability and not ultimate performance - the “spec A” we heard so much about - so they will wait for the update package to arrive before being too definitive. My main concern is the PU and whether they’re going to have the same power as Mercedes, but let’s hope so and that we’re at least in the hunt.
If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.

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dialtone wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:59

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.
In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.

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edu2703 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:16
dialtone wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:59

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.
In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.
The opposite is true. Weaker manufacturer could sacrifice 2026 to activate the ADUO and have a much better engine in 2027.
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AR3-GP wrote:
edu2703 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:16
dialtone wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:59

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.
In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.
The opposite is true. Weaker manufacturer could sacrifice 2026 to activate the ADUO and have a much better engine in 2027.
Very unlikely. Only Honda or Audi could do that. The others have multiple teams and either collude or won’t be able to.

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dialtone wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:31
AR3-GP wrote:
edu2703 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:16


In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.
The opposite is true. Weaker manufacturer could sacrifice 2026 to activate the ADUO and have a much better engine in 2027.
Very unlikely. Only Honda or Audi could do that. The others have multiple teams and either collude or won’t be able to.
Do the FIA not have the ability to test the power of an engine on a dyno or similar facility?

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Ferrari have made a better start to testing than last year – Hamilton

“Last year we had a worse start to testing. So considering this is a completely new band of rules, it’s better than we’ve experienced in the past. So I’m really hopeful that continues.”
https://www.racefans.net/2026/01/30/fer ... -hamilton/


Remain calm :lol:
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F1subman25 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:54
dialtone wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:31
AR3-GP wrote:
The opposite is true. Weaker manufacturer could sacrifice 2026 to activate the ADUO and have a much better engine in 2027.
Very unlikely. Only Honda or Audi could do that. The others have multiple teams and either collude or won’t be able to.
Do the FIA not have the ability to test the power of an engine on a dyno or similar facility?
Engines are complicated beasts in these cars, even with a dyno the firmware and ECU are from the team.

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Simply lovely end to the shakedown there! The hopium is flowing!
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edu2703 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:16
dialtone wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:59

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.
In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.
You forgot all the MB years of total domination from engine side, what they where doing? The just raised a bit the oil burning and plus everything else and where a click above everyone else. They never showed their hand from start.
What im saying is that this is normal in F1 and happens all the time. Unfortunately FIA has no way to polish that

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bluechris wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 09:32
edu2703 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 00:16
dialtone wrote:
30 Jan 2026, 21:59

If they are lower in power then the ADUO kicks in and they'll be allowed to develop even homologated parts after races 6, 12 and 18 the determination is made.
In an interview, Binotto raised the possibility that an engine manufacturer, upon discovering that its power unit is significantly more powerful than its rivals, might intentionally limit the engine to be "only" 10 hp more powerful, just to avoid giving the ADUO benefit to its rivals.

Someone at Red Bull has already mentioned that the ADUO benefits are so enormous that an engine manufacturer could use them to go from the worst to the best engine mid-season. Therefore, Binotto believes that not even a manufacturer with a dominant PU wants to give this type of benefit to its rivals.

I'm very curious to see if this will actually happen, if a dominant engine is nerfed, creating an artificial parity just to avoid giving these benefits to its rivals. In theory, this makes perfect sense.
You forgot all the MB years of total domination from engine side, what they where doing? The just raised a bit the oil burning and plus everything else and where a click above everyone else. They never showed their hand from start.
What im saying is that this is normal in F1 and happens all the time. Unfortunately FIA has no way to polish that
If they win the first 6 races with little competition, even if not by 60s each, FIA will allow development. They don't want to repeat 2014, and Mercs also reduced engine power but still won almost all races.

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dialtone wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 09:38
If they win the first 6 races with little competition, even if not by 60s each, FIA will allow development. They don't want to repeat 2014, and Mercs also reduced engine power but still won almost all races.
The easy way will be to just ban their compression ratio trickery. No need for ADUO then.
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Why was the compression ratio reduced from 18:1 to 16:1 in the first place?
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ryaan2904 wrote:
31 Jan 2026, 13:27
Why was the compression ratio reduced from 18:1 to 16:1 in the first place?
Lower the entry barrier for new manufacturers.

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I don't know about you guys but I'm having a good feeling after this shakedown! 1m16s is normally the Barcelona barometer time as I like to call it. You don't do this time if your car has issues.

Beyond running fault free, we could match the pace of the Mercs while doing it "relaxed." So even the Mercedes sandbagging we should have the scope to close the gap.

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