Mercedes W17

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How ive missed seeing those shrink wrapped engine covers

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Great picture, from this angle I can see the similarities with the McLaren bargeboard. Theirs is just more extreme.

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James Allison says that the drag is virtually unchanged when the front flaps drop down. According to him, the active front flap is primarily used to maintain the aero balance when the rear wing opens. This could be a car specific detail but it explains why Mercedes have chosen to only move the rear-most flap on their front wing. It's not decreasing the drag. It's only changing the aero balance.
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AR3-GP wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 17:19
James Allison says that the drag is virtually unchanged when the front flaps drop down. According to him, the active front flap is primarily used to maintain the aero balance when the rear wing opens. This could be a car specific detail but it explains why Mercedes have chosen to only move the rear-most flap on their front wing. It's not decreasing the drag. It's only changing the aero balance.
So the Aston Martin may just not need the adjusting front wing due to Neweys floor efficiency based magic 🤔

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Considering the zones are FIA mandated, and knowing their risk aversion, I am certain they wont be allowed to use low drag mode in any mild corner. So the aero balance improvement is worthless IMO. The only priority is shedding drag.
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The car from the launch event today now has strakes on the underside of the front wing like the Alpine. Rear corner of the floor possibly looks like it's got a new addition too

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icantride wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 19:36
The car from the launch event today now has strakes on the underside of the front wing like the Alpine. Rear corner of the floor possibly looks like it's got a new addition too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HAKeo2gWUAEhH05?format=jpg
I also spotted this.
(2) Cooling outlet on the engine cover?
(3) Surfacing of the front wing endplate?

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edit: I think the diffuser hole is the same. It's just a better angle here.
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downwashing suspension arms.
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Owen.C93 wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 17:47
Considering the zones are FIA mandated, and knowing their risk aversion, I am certain they wont be allowed to use low drag mode in any mild corner. So the aero balance improvement is worthless IMO. The only priority is shedding drag.
Isn't it dangerous to drive a car that intermittently has a lot more downforce in the front than then the back?

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mzso wrote:
03 Feb 2026, 21:18
Owen.C93 wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 17:47
Considering the zones are FIA mandated, and knowing their risk aversion, I am certain they wont be allowed to use low drag mode in any mild corner. So the aero balance improvement is worthless IMO. The only priority is shedding drag.
Isn't it dangerous to drive a car that intermittently has a lot more downforce in the front than then the back?
Like with DRS?

The active concept was to reduce the downforce in balance F-R such that there was less overall downforce (with consequent reduction in drag).
For the DIA to now designate straights (zero lateral G?) and corners they may as well just called it double DRS and had done with it.
The teams should have been allowed free rein on where/how they use the active modes (there would be an impact of whole race pace if they err too much one way or another - this would have been fascinating to watch). It would be like going back to the old turbo days, they had 900bhp to race with but had to be careful how it was deployed otherwise they would run out of fuel.
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AR3-GP wrote:
02 Feb 2026, 17:19
James Allison says that the drag is virtually unchanged when the front flaps drop down. According to him, the active front flap is primarily used to maintain the aero balance when the rear wing opens. This could be a car specific detail but it explains why Mercedes have chosen to only move the rear-most flap on their front wing. It's not decreasing the drag. It's only changing the aero balance.
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The floor corner detail on the mercedes