2026 Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team

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Lasssept wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 10:39
Well, he just flat out admitted it, didn't he. I have to say, I am sorry, but legality is not measured by number of teams running something dubious, lol.

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He said if you change the rules and measure at working temperature, we may be in breach.

Not really a revelation.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:11
He said if you change the rules and measure at working temperature, we may be in breach.

Not really a revelation.
This is the first time I see someone with inside knowledge actually admit that this bluntly.

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If Merc is able to run its engine hotter it will naturally gain more on thermal expansion, which may give the engine higher compression ratio. Not sure how is FIA going to fault Merc for that.

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CHT wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:22
If Merc is able to run its engine hotter it will naturally gain more on thermal expansion, which may give the engine higher compression ratio. Not sure how is FIA going to fault Merc for that.
Because the rule says it can never be above 16.

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Rikhart wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:32
CHT wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:22
If Merc is able to run its engine hotter it will naturally gain more on thermal expansion, which may give the engine higher compression ratio. Not sure how is FIA going to fault Merc for that.
Because the rule says it can never be above 16.
At ambient temperature yes, but when engine is operating at peak temp, compression may change and different engines may have different peak temp.

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CHT wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:49
Rikhart wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:32
CHT wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:22
If Merc is able to run its engine hotter it will naturally gain more on thermal expansion, which may give the engine higher compression ratio. Not sure how is FIA going to fault Merc for that.
Because the rule says it can never be above 16.
At ambient temperature yes, but when engine is operating at peak temp, compression may change and different engines may have different peak temp.
No, the rule does not say at ambient temp, it says it may never be higher than 16... It's only the test that says ambient temp.

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Rikhart wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:55
CHT wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:49
Rikhart wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 12:32


Because the rule says it can never be above 16.
At ambient temperature yes, but when engine is operating at peak temp, compression may change and different engines may have different peak temp.
No, the rule does not say at ambient temp, it says it may never be higher than 16... It's only the test that says ambient temp.
How do FIA test the parts at those temperature? combustion chamber temperature may be as high as 2500C

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We only have the hearsay (almost certainly accurate, but without evidence still only hearsay) of an engineer who has moved from one engine manufacturer to another and revealed their knowledge of the supposed ruse. That’s the only reason the compliance of the engine is being questioned. Not evidence. Hearsay. If a way could be devised to measure the compression ratio when in operation and it was found to be over, that’s a different matter.
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But for well over a decade, every single car has exceeded the legal amount of flex when at speed, though complied when measured stationary. So not a single car has been compliant ‘at all times’ in the last decade, probably more. It was impractical to rigidly (sorry for the pun) apply that ‘at all times’ part of the regulation because there was no way of measuring it in action, even though it was absolutely visible from the cameras on the cars.

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Lasssept wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 15:04
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Why is he lying lol? Already downplaying the advantage to look good in Melbourne :D
The FIA folds on a royal flush.

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Lasssept wrote:
11 Feb 2026, 15:04
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HAHAHAHA stop it Toto!

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He's trying to stop his engine getting nerfed. Paint someone else as the favorite. The other teams should have driven much slower...
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