2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[TyreSlip]

I am at work. Is Aston Martin done for the day or they installing a new gearbox?

[damager21]

I am at work. Is Aston Martin done for the day or they installing a new gearbox?

Mechanics are working on the car, could also be a brakes issue, but most likely gearbox

[diffuser]

Perhaps. But in any way the point is moot. CR is only valid at ambient for all engines. There are no margins set on how how much it can increase when running hot. No accepted method of measuring it, and no state defined to measure it at.
There's no basis to force Mercedes to do anything, if any of these CR rumors are true.

The wing analogy was very apt. All wings flex, without setting tolerances saying it should be rigid is meaningless and invalid.

False. All 2025 PU ran a presure sensor to prevent knock.

Fact...one of the driving reason to limit CR was the cost of that sensor.

What is "false"? You didn't refute anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the the pressure sensor measures pressure, doesn't it?

Sorry misread that. Thought you meant CR at temp couldn't be measured.

The loophole was created in Oct 2025 PU regs. The PU regs prior to that didn't specify that 16:1 CR was being measured at ambient temp. That feeds back into this being madness. If your plan is to save manufactures money why didn't the FIA write in the Oct 2025 Regs that the CR would be monitored all the time? Maybe all the teams have found a work around to the 16:1 CR, therefore, this might be a moot point. I know I read that Honda is behind cause they had to make a change to bypass the 16:1 CR but I don't know how true that is. Which then asks another question, why create a reg then allow everyone to bypass it ?

[draghixa]

Stroll is coming out again

[TyreSlip]

I am at work. Is Aston Martin done for the day or they installing a new gearbox?

Mechanics are working on the car, could also be a brakes issue, but most likely gearbox

Thanks.

[diffuser]

Front wing looks open still as well

It closed, you can see it on the front facing slow-mo. But the gearbox is probably dead...

The so-called "hydraulic leak" happened. Remember Alonso qualifying in Melbourne 2022? Exactly the same thing. We need to figure out whose problem it is: the gearbox or the engine.

Hydraulics have also been used for the DRS. So could go all the way up to ARM on the rear wing and all the way to the front wing in the nose.

[diffuser]

Stroll is coming out again

[etusch]

Are these cars have something like antistall to keep gearbox unbroken ?

[mzso]

False. All 2025 PU ran a presure sensor to prevent knock.

Fact...one of the driving reason to limit CR was the cost of that sensor.

What is "false"? You didn't refute anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the the pressure sensor measures pressure, doesn't it?

Sorry misread that. Thought you meant CR at temp couldn't be measured.

The loophole was created in Oct 2025 PU regs. The PU regs prior to that didn't specify that 16:1 CR was being measured at ambient temp. That feeds back into this being madness. If your plan is to save manufactures money why didn't the FIA write in the Oct 2025 Regs that the CR would be monitored all the time? Maybe all the teams have found a work around to the 16:1 CR, therefore, this might be a moot point. I know I read that Honda is behind cause they had to make a change to bypass the 16:1 CR but I don't know how true that is. Which then asks another question, why create a reg then allow everyone to bypass it ?

That line in itself changes nothing, because of the lack of margins, procedures as I said before.
But judging by what was said in the broadcast, this will change. But Aug 1 is the target...

[FNTC]

The front wing seems to still close slightly later than the rear wing, whether by accident or "by design".

[FNTC]

Stroll did a sub 1:36 now, half a second faster than Alonso. 2.5s off the quickest, not 4.5s. Some progress at least.
And if the timing site I use is correct, he did it with only 302kph or lower in the speed trap, as that is his maximum so far.

[diffuser]

What is "false"? You didn't refute anything.

Correct me if I'm wrong but the the pressure sensor measures pressure, doesn't it?

Sorry misread that. Thought you meant CR at temp couldn't be measured.

The loophole was created in Oct 2025 PU regs. The PU regs prior to that didn't specify that 16:1 CR was being measured at ambient temp. That feeds back into this being madness. If your plan is to save manufactures money why didn't the FIA write in the Oct 2025 Regs that the CR would be monitored all the time? Maybe all the teams have found a work around to the 16:1 CR, therefore, this might be a moot point. I know I read that Honda is behind cause they had to make a change to bypass the 16:1 CR but I don't know how true that is. Which then asks another question, why create a reg then allow everyone to bypass it ?

That line in itself changes nothing, because of the lack of margins, procedures as I said before.
But judging by what was said in the broadcast, this will change. But Aug 1 is the target...

Did they mention 130C measure where ? So they'll be allow to make changes to the ICE to meet that requirement?

[FNTC]

Did they mention 130C measure where ? So they'll be allow to make changes to the ICE to meet that requirement?

https://www.fia.com/news/fia-statement- ... -committee

Over recent weeks and months, the FIA and the Power Unit Manufacturers have collaboratively developed a methodology to quantify how the compression ratio changes from ambient to operating conditions. Following validation of this approach, a proposal has been submitted whereby, from 1 August 2026, compliance with the compression ratio limit must be demonstrated not only at ambient conditions, but also at a representative operating temperature of 130°C.

The vote has been submitted to the Power Unit Manufacturers, and its outcome is expected within the next 10 days and will be communicated in due course. As with all Formula 1 regulatory changes, any amendment remains subject to final approval by the FIA World Motor Sport Council.

[mzso]

Ah, the actual text Croft read. How does the vote needs to turn out? Also, don't the teams and FOM need to vote?

[Alonso Fan]

Ah, the actual text Croft read. How does the vote needs to turn out? Also, don't the teams and FOM need to vote?

All engine manufacturers have 1 vote + FIA + FOM.
The change can be made as planned if Honda, RB Ford, Ferrari, Audi and FIA and FOM vote in favour

The only question remaining is: who will FOM side with?
All engine manufacturers views are clear. FIA's view is expected to agree with everyone opposing Mercedes since they're the one suggesting the new hot testing procedure and rule change for August.