Miha_v wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026, 22:03
mzso wrote: ↑20 Feb 2026, 21:14
Seriously?
How do you guys have such gross hallucinations? Alonso was one of the all tie most toxic drivers at that time.
Leclerc (foolishly) tied himself to a team that constantly lets him down, with the car, strategies, and team orders. Yet he hardly said a bad word.
Looks like someone here is not paying attention to team radios. Whining, screaming, cursing from most top drivers about most minute things is happening all the time. And understandable, as this is happening during the heat of the race, while pumped full of adrenaline and 200+ bpm. But Fernando's cynical (and completely understandable) "GP2 engine" was taken completely out of all proportions and he's considered "toxic"? Max (and Jos) would have put a hole in the garage wall already, after a couple of races with such a bad car!
I agree, both Mclaren and Honda were at fault (and Honda engines were a scapegoat at first), but criticism was well understandable, as both engine and chassis
sucked.
Alonso's only fault (or merit depending on the point of view) was his deep love for F1 and that sense of revenge he has had for years, of wanting to demonstrate that meritocracy is It also happens in this sport sooner or later.
No one has ever given anything to Alonso, only Briatore and Minardi. He's always had to deal with teams that have treated him badly: Ron Dennis in McLaren 2007, in Ferrari they accompanied him out because they thought Vettel was superior (and in fact it showed) and then in McLaren Honda was the only solution left. Not to mention Alpine who wanted to retire him in 2023 and fortunately he left from there.
The difference between Leclerc Hamilton and Verstappen is that Alonso was already over 30 in 2015 and couldn't wait for the team to grow, moreover he was already world champion and found himself fighting at the back of the pack after fighting at the top. No one would have resisted; anyone like Button would have retired.
Even the difference with Leclerc has nothing to do with it: Leclerc was a Ferrari driver who drove for the satellite team and then joined the official team, when he drove the sf1000 he was in his second year at Ferrari and he was still very young. To make a more serious comparison, it's as if Leclerc at 34 went to McLaren and was fighting at the back, he would also retire.
To conclude, guys, stop being anti-Alonso, anti-Honda, anti-Aston Martin, let's try to enjoy this period. Then maybe things will go well and bad. But we can't decide that.
