2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Newey:
Aston Martin has "successfully and significantly reduced the vibrations introduced into the battery" thanks to extensive test bench tests, Newey said. "But until we manage to reduce the vibrations directly at their source, we will be very limited in the number of laps in the race."

"Because a carbon fiber chassis is inherently a very stiff structure with little damping, and we haven't made any progress in transmitting the vibrations to the chassis."
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Jesus. The ego of Newey is on full display. Regardless of who is to blame the responsible thing to do would have been to not point fingers at this stage and strain the relationship publicly, yet Newey is being explicit in his finger pointing, he’s going out of his way to explain that the vibrations are coming from Honda. Also defending his own honor by proclaiming how competitive the chassis would be if the engine was working properly :lol: I’m not sure this man possesses the people skills required to be TP.

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Newey:
“I look at our package and don’t think we’ve missed anything. So I think the car has a great development potential, although we will need several races to be truly aware of this potential.

“We have an aggressive development plan. It is fair to say here in Melbourne we will be the fifth-fastest car, with the potential to reach Q3, in terms of the chassis.

“It’s not what we wanted, but we have the potential to be at the front at some stage in the season.
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Quite a few posting on here don't appear in possession of the psychological maturity to take part in technical discussion.

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There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding on running limted laps. Like the team statement says they have a fix and that without the fix they would have been restricted due to the vibration. They also clearly mention they wont know what the situation is until they run on friday. A lot of misinformation is being spread. Adrian statement also indirectly says they expect to complete the race but just not leading.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 08:28
There seems to be a bit of misunderstanding on running limted laps. Like the team statement says they have a fix and that without the fix they would have been restricted due to the vibration. They also clearly mention they wont know what the situation is until they run on friday. A lot of misinformation is being spread. Adrian statement also indirectly says they expect to complete the race but just not leading.

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05 Mar 2026, 07:50
Newey:
Aston Martin has "successfully and significantly reduced the vibrations introduced into the battery" thanks to extensive test bench tests, Newey said. "But until we manage to reduce the vibrations directly at their source, we will be very limited in the number of laps in the race."

"Because a carbon fiber chassis is inherently a very stiff structure with little damping, and we haven't made any progress in transmitting the vibrations to the chassis."
https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... m-26030501
(1) They isolated the battery from the vibrations and was tested on the bench.
(2) They haven't made any progress in the vibrations being transmitted to the chassis.

#2 will limit their ability to do laps in the race.
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AR3-GP wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 08:30


(1) They isolated the battery from the vibrations and was tested on the bench.
(2) They haven't made any progress in the vibrations being transmitted to the chassis.

#2 will limit their ability to do laps in the race.
(3) source of vibration not identified and fixed

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continuum16 wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 05:00
I know we have 140+ pages of waffle before RACE ONE but let me pose a few questions:

1) What on earth was Aston Martin doing between January 1 and March 1 2025? It seems the AMR26 and, to some extent, the PU packaging only really came into focus once Newey showed up. And yet the AMR25 was fairly undeveloped and uncompetitive. Was there an entirely scrapped AMR26 concept that we’ve never seen?

2) If the vibrations to the AMR26 monocoque are so severe, is a replacement monocoque not more feasible than redesigning the entire PU architecture, which would set them back even further? Especially since PU spec is frozen? Obviously not ideal but surely the lesser of two evils? Is it possible the explanation is so “simple” that the engine mounts are incorrectly located due to lateness/revisions/miscommunication?

3) IF (and that’s asking a lot) the chassis is “only” 1s off the top teams, is that not still a massive gulf? And what have we seen from this team in the last 8 years to suggest that they can effectively develop mid-season?

Sorry to pour gasoline onto the already healthy fire…
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They said they've fixed most of the drum vibrations on the virtual bench, but they don't know until Friday if it will be transmitted to the track, so we still don't know how it will go.


However, when I read that the best engineer in the history of F1 throws a tantrum to defend his chassis for someone, I'm speechless. Guys, this is F1, it's a team effort, where the individual makes the difference of course, but the chassis work was done together with Honda in a correlated way. So everyone knows why everything was done a certain way. It's not something Adrian thought up and did on his own without the others' approval.

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the bulk of AM problems are the changes AN made when he came in and took control of the project from Andy Cowell. They have all clearly missed a few basic checks and balances so blaming Honda is naive and rather ignorant of Engineering process

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Maybe as a baseline they could mod and fit last years engine to the gearbox and monocoque and check for vibrations on the test bench
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What bothers me is that the car is the same as bahrein, they said the car will be completely different in melbourne

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Badger wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 08:09
Jesus. The ego of Newey is on full display. Regardless of who is to blame the responsible thing to do would have been to not point fingers at this stage and strain the relationship publicly, yet Newey is being explicit in his finger pointing, he’s going out of his way to explain that the vibrations are coming from Honda. Also defending his own honor by proclaiming how competitive the chassis would be if the engine was working properly :lol: I’m not sure this man possesses the people skills required to be TP.
Whether ego or ignorance or both, it is alarmingly close to something out of the 2015 McLaren playbook. At least he wasn’t naive enough to say it was a top chassis full stop. Which is a critical difference to 2015. But still.

I’m not even saying he’s wrong. But I don’t get what the benefit of such a statement is.
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continuum16 wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 10:15
Badger wrote:
05 Mar 2026, 08:09
Jesus. The ego of Newey is on full display. Regardless of who is to blame the responsible thing to do would have been to not point fingers at this stage and strain the relationship publicly, yet Newey is being explicit in his finger pointing, he’s going out of his way to explain that the vibrations are coming from Honda. Also defending his own honor by proclaiming how competitive the chassis would be if the engine was working properly :lol: I’m not sure this man possesses the people skills required to be TP.
Whether ego or ignorance or both, it is alarmingly close to something out of the 2015 McLaren playbook. At least he wasn’t naive enough to say it was a top chassis full stop. Which is a critical difference to 2015. But still.

I’m not even saying he’s wrong. But I don’t get what the benefit of such a statement is.
It seems like his goal is to embarrass Honda as much as possible. After the Bahrain test, it leaked that Newey said the Honda PU wasn't capable of harvesting at 250kw, or 350kw as proposed. Honda later denied this.

Now Newey put "nerve damage" into the public record and said it's all Honda's fault. Stroll said it feels like being electrocuted. Headlines: Honda PU = nerve damage, electrocution.

"nerve damage" is currently trending on my twitter...AMR is doing a bridge burning speed run.
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I sensed AMR and Alonso will struggle like Mclaren 2015 when they announced partnership with Honda. The marriage Alonso and Honda never going to work out.

I would say put Tsunoda on the car as he is Honda baby... and he will say what the car looks like in Japan.... then the Honda will realize.

Also if Newly said something about engine packaging, it is upto Honda to think and see if it is feasible as they don't have enough time to do R&D. Honda should push backed Newly idea of tight packing idea. They had similar issue in 2015 and don't know why Honda agreed with it.

if it is not going to work, Honda may come up with traditional engine model as other manufacturers uses like they did it in 2018 onwards....

This year gone and I don't want AMR to spend much of the time in exploring the current model of engine design......