2026 Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team

[Phlumbert]

Third rate chassis P1 and P2. George and Kimi are driving the hell out of that third rate chassis. Good for them.

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

Would you have the same opinion if Ferrari were the ones with a rocketship engine and mediocre chassis?

Hahahah, of course you wouldn't.

[GrizzleBoy]

I've heard that George's illegal steering wheel with the party mode button had to get changed for one of Kimis. And now hes slow that he doesnt habe it. A lot of people are saying that. People.come up to me all the time and they say "did you know George had a special party mode button on his wheel, and Mercedes had to get rid of it because he got caught". Everybody knows about the party mode. Everybody. The RADICAL left said the parties in the files was about......other things, but it was about the party....

modes......ive been totally exOnOrated (is that how you pronounce that?), totally. If anyone bombed the steering wheel, it was definitely Iran, but if it wasnt them them and it was one of our missiles then I dont know anything about it, I haven't seen it. We're winning bigly now. We're going to win so much. I said to Andrea, very strongly, that were going to be winning now. By a LOT. A LOT. Thats what theyre saying. Everybody saying that. And theyre right, because if you can regenerate ear cartilage, you can regenerate battery charge too. And thats what were doing. Theyre saying I used the "jerky" to regenerate the ear, and maybe I did but they dont know that. I have to stop talking now? Why? What's a mossa-

[LM10]

Third rate chassis P1 and P2. George and Kimi are driving the hell out of that third rate chassis. Good for them.

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

Would you have the same opinion if Ferrari were the ones with a rocketship engine and mediocre chassis?

Hahahah, of course you wouldn't.

You mean the illegal engine which Mercedes is allowed to operate until June?

[LM10]

Third rate chassis P1 and P2. George and Kimi are driving the hell out of that third rate chassis. Good for them.

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

I feel like Ferrari or Mercedes being the "best chassis" between either of them is up for debate. Them being the 2 best chassis's vs the rest of grid is something everyone would agree on.

LMAO, no, not even the slightest doubt. Ferrari all over Mercedes in the corners. Over 6 tenths faster in China.

[LM10]

Third rate chassis P1 and P2. George and Kimi are driving the hell out of that third rate chassis. Good for them.

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

I wish there was a way to run the car by removing the PU and with "chassis only". It would be so much fun to see how Lewis and Charles would dominate F1. I would bet on Charles winning that contest still, while poor Mercedes might not even come out of garage.

"Aerodynamics is for people who can't build engines." -- Enzo Ferrari

my my how the turn tables

Instead of quoting Enzo from the 1960s you should live in the present.

Modern F1 has primarily been about downforce and cornering performance for decades now. FIA turning the formula into a PU formula and <mod edit: spam removed> does not change this fact.

It’s a farce that Ferrari is over 6 tenths faster than Mercedes in the corners, but loses 9 tenths on the straights because Toto Wolff is a good politician and a buddy of Ben Sulayem.

[hollus]

Makes you wonder what people would think if F1 in the 80s, or in the 90s. Many new fans would be shocked.

[Emag]

I think this "illegal PU" is being pushed way too much now. It's frustrating that Mercedes got this advantage right now, but they just pushed things to the limit of what they thought was allowed. It's the name of the game. There was a gray area and they exploited the sh*t out of it. Blame it on the FIA for presumably being in continuous contact with Mercedes during development and allowing it to happen.

It's obviously annoying for those who played the game completely by the book, but try to see it from the other perspective as well. If you allow them to dump resources during development and then come out later and say "you know what we just changed our mind", is not fair either. You have to be consistent all the way through and the FIA f*cked up when they gave Mercedes the green light to continue in this path.

It sucks but it is the way it is. No need to keep pushing this "illegal PU" agenda all the time.

[OverheatedTurbo]

Third rate chassis does it again. Congrats to Kimi and nice of George/team to do some damage limitation to secure P2 in Qualy.

[OverheatedTurbo]

I think this "illegal PU" is being pushed way too much now. It's frustrating that Mercedes got this advantage right now, but they just pushed things to the limit of what they thought was allowed. It's the name of the game. There was a gray area and they exploited the sh*t out of it. Blame it on the FIA for presumably being in continuous contact with Mercedes during development and allowing it to happen.

It's obviously annoying for those who played the game completely by the book, but try to see it from the other perspective as well. If you allow them to dump resources during development and then come out later and say "you know what we just changed our mind", is not fair either. You have to be consistent all the way through and the FIA f*cked up when they gave Mercedes the green light to continue in this path.

It sucks but it is the way it is. No need to keep pushing this "illegal PU" agenda all the time.

Nobody cares about their opinion anyway. The PU is not illegal, it’s just that they can’t build an engine to save their lives.

[nitrotech]

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

I wish there was a way to run the car by removing the PU and with "chassis only". It would be so much fun to see how Lewis and Charles would dominate F1. I would bet on Charles winning that contest still, while poor Mercedes might not even come out of garage.

"Aerodynamics is for people who can't build engines." -- Enzo Ferrari

my my how the turn tables

Instead of quoting Enzo from the 1960s you should live in the present.

Modern F1 has primarily been about downforce and cornering performance for decades now. FIA turning the formula into a PU formula and <mod edit: spam removed> does not change this fact.

It’s a farce that Ferrari is over 6 tenths faster than Mercedes in the corners, but loses 9 tenths on the straights because Toto Wolff is a good politician and a buddy of Ben Sulayem.

Here are folks that were running Ferrari for decades.

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/ferr ... 34974.html

2011

“Actually, in Formula One at the moment there is really only aerodynamic development,” said Domenicali in a recent interview with Germany's Auto Bild. “It is 90 per cent of the performance which from the perspective of a car manufacturer such as Ferrari is unacceptable.”

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferra ... 2/4457492/

2012

"We want an F1 with less cost," he said at Monza. "Tell me why we have to spend a huge amount of cost to spend 24 hours in the windtunnel to do a small wing flap that for the public [the interest] is zero, for the television is zero, and for me as a road-car manufacturer it is less than zero because we will never use this for the road car?"

You don't have good aero, blame F1 regulations. You don't have strong engine, blame F1 regulations. That's Ferrari for most part of it's existence in the last 2 decades.

I am willing to bet, at some point this season, Ferrari will bring an upgrade that will actually be a downgrade. Then it's the same, "chasing the tail" game and focus shifts to 2027.

[Phlumbert]

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

Would you have the same opinion if Ferrari were the ones with a rocketship engine and mediocre chassis?

Hahahah, of course you wouldn't.

You mean the illegal engine which Mercedes is allowed to operate until June?

And yet there is still not a single iota of proof it's illegal. Just hearsay and rumor.

[Phlumbert]

Well, certainly not the best chassis because that’s the Ferrari. We’ve come to a point in F1 where the best chassis gets beaten by well over half a second in qualifying.

I feel like Ferrari or Mercedes being the "best chassis" between either of them is up for debate. Them being the 2 best chassis's vs the rest of grid is something everyone would agree on.

LMAO, no, not even the slightest doubt. Ferrari all over Mercedes in the corners. Over 6 tenths faster in China.

Hmm I don't seem to recall Hamilton opening 6 tenths in the corners in George during the sprint..

[HungarianRacer]

It’s a farce that Ferrari is over 6 tenths faster than Mercedes in the corners, but loses 9 tenths on the straights because Toto Wolff is a good politician and a buddy of Ben Sulayem.

"Over 6 tenths faster in the corners, because F1 podcast overlay said so"



In the sprint, George and Kimi were riding the dirty air and scrubbing the Prancing Horses' gearboxes pretty well enough for having cars >6 tenths slower in the corners, wouldn't you say?

... by the way, so far, Mercedes has been faster on pretty much all straights this season (when arriving with "regular" deployment strategy), now, we can't infer drag levels from top speeds anymore for obvious reasons, but you are kind of just granting your favourite team that ANY straight line deficit they have must purely be from PU deficit, and none from excess drag...

[LM10]

It’s a farce that Ferrari is over 6 tenths faster than Mercedes in the corners, but loses 9 tenths on the straights because Toto Wolff is a good politician and a buddy of Ben Sulayem.

"Over 6 tenths faster in the corners, because F1 podcast overlay said so"

https://i.postimg.cc/qBmMKg3x/Kepkivaga ... verlay.png

In the sprint, George and Kimi were riding the dirty air and scrubbing the Prancing Horses' gearboxes pretty well enough for having cars >6 tenths slower in the corners, wouldn't you say?

Since when does it make sense to compare race laps to judge raw pace?

[HungarianRacer]

It’s a farce that Ferrari is over 6 tenths faster than Mercedes in the corners, but loses 9 tenths on the straights because Toto Wolff is a good politician and a buddy of Ben Sulayem.

"Over 6 tenths faster in the corners, because F1 podcast overlay said so"

https://i.postimg.cc/qBmMKg3x/Kepkivaga ... verlay.png

In the sprint, George and Kimi were riding the dirty air and scrubbing the Prancing Horses' gearboxes pretty well enough for having cars >6 tenths slower in the corners, wouldn't you say?

Since when does it make sense to compare race laps to judge raw pace?

Race laps in the 32s?... Oh, you are just hand-waving the dirty air argument away and pretending that the qualy lap telemetry comparison wasn't part of my post, gottcha...