2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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mzso wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:57
diffuser wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:09
If they don't know the cause of the vibration, what makes you think that a complete redesigned of the ICE, would NOT just bring the same result?
Why wouldn't they. They've been testing and analyzing it for a month now, or more.
diffuser wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:09
Remember, Honda claims it doesn't vibrate like this on their full chassis dyno.
With such crippling issues, I doubt they didn't notice any more vibrations than their previous PU compared to their previous design. More like they underestimated the importance, how the effect will be much magnified in a real car.
Perhaps they thought the vibrations are acceptable. Either that or their rig was immune to and/or absorbent of vibrations.

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thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.

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zoroastar wrote:
17 Mar 2026, 04:28
mzso wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:57
diffuser wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:09
If they don't know the cause of the vibration, what makes you think that a complete redesigned of the ICE, would NOT just bring the same result?
Why wouldn't they. They've been testing and analyzing it for a month now, or more.
diffuser wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 14:09
Remember, Honda claims it doesn't vibrate like this on their full chassis dyno.
With such crippling issues, I doubt they didn't notice any more vibrations than their previous PU compared to their previous design. More like they underestimated the importance, how the effect will be much magnified in a real car.
Perhaps they thought the vibrations are acceptable. Either that or their rig was immune to and/or absorbent of vibrations.

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thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.
Maybe, we'll never know......

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There are reasons why man feel more comfortable doing long distance running within liner or underpants.

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diffuser wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 23:54
Rasoose wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 21:58
Nikosar wrote:
16 Mar 2026, 10:52
I’m not sure how Aston Martin was allowed to race if the car could potentially harm the drivers… hopefully under this outstanding circumstance they are allowed to carry upgrades..
Anyone who's ridden a motorcycle long-distance has probably experienced similar, I wouldn't worry too much about any long-term/permanent impact.
That's not to say it shouldn't be a priority but it will take time, and in the meantime they can keep doing laps with plenty of breaks.

With the MGU-K being positioned the way it is (transferring the ICE vibration much closer to the battery & cockpit) the solution may be a partial redesign of the MGU-K *and* chassis - adding bracing to the 'floating' end of MGU-K, attached to ICE, and adding room for the bracing at the back of the chassis + avoiding any direct contact between MGU-K and survival cell. I wouldn't expect this to be done by the next round.

I'm not confident that going back to Honda's previous MGU-K placement (or similar) would even be possible this season, and that's if the team would even want to do that.

If that was the problem, you'd think they could turn the MGU-K off, test and know for certain that was the problem. Then they try to solve it. Since they haven't come out and said that the MGU-K is the problem, I presume that isn't the issue.
I meant that the MGU-K (which is directly connected to the ICE, both the engine block and the crankshaft via gearing) is much closer to the battery and the driver than in previous years, and it's able to transmit the relatively normal (for a racing engine) levels of vibrations from the ICE because of this very direct connection. Turning the MGU-K off wouldn't change this.

My theory is that they're securing the 'floating' end of the MGU-K to the chassis/tub somehow since it would normally be mounted more securely when beside the engine. This would explain why it came as a surprise after mounting everything together.