2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[zoroastar]

If they don't know the cause of the vibration, what makes you think that a complete redesigned of the ICE, would NOT just bring the same result?

Why wouldn't they. They've been testing and analyzing it for a month now, or more.

Remember, Honda claims it doesn't vibrate like this on their full chassis dyno.

With such crippling issues, I doubt they didn't notice any more vibrations than their previous PU compared to their previous design. More like they underestimated the importance, how the effect will be much magnified in a real car.
Perhaps they thought the vibrations are acceptable. Either that or their rig was immune to and/or absorbent of vibrations.

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thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.

[diffuser]

If they don't know the cause of the vibration, what makes you think that a complete redesigned of the ICE, would NOT just bring the same result?

Why wouldn't they. They've been testing and analyzing it for a month now, or more.

Remember, Honda claims it doesn't vibrate like this on their full chassis dyno.

With such crippling issues, I doubt they didn't notice any more vibrations than their previous PU compared to their previous design. More like they underestimated the importance, how the effect will be much magnified in a real car.
Perhaps they thought the vibrations are acceptable. Either that or their rig was immune to and/or absorbent of vibrations.

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thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.

Maybe, we'll never know......

[CHT]

There are reasons why man feel more comfortable doing long distance running within liner or underpants.

[Rasoose]

I’m not sure how Aston Martin was allowed to race if the car could potentially harm the drivers… hopefully under this outstanding circumstance they are allowed to carry upgrades..

Anyone who's ridden a motorcycle long-distance has probably experienced similar, I wouldn't worry too much about any long-term/permanent impact.
That's not to say it shouldn't be a priority but it will take time, and in the meantime they can keep doing laps with plenty of breaks.

With the MGU-K being positioned the way it is (transferring the ICE vibration much closer to the battery & cockpit) the solution may be a partial redesign of the MGU-K *and* chassis - adding bracing to the 'floating' end of MGU-K, attached to ICE, and adding room for the bracing at the back of the chassis + avoiding any direct contact between MGU-K and survival cell. I wouldn't expect this to be done by the next round.

I'm not confident that going back to Honda's previous MGU-K placement (or similar) would even be possible this season, and that's if the team would even want to do that.

If that was the problem, you'd think they could turn the MGU-K off, test and know for certain that was the problem. Then they try to solve it. Since they haven't come out and said that the MGU-K is the problem, I presume that isn't the issue.

I meant that the MGU-K (which is directly connected to the ICE, both the engine block and the crankshaft via gearing) is much closer to the battery and the driver than in previous years, and it's able to transmit the relatively normal (for a racing engine) levels of vibrations from the ICE because of this very direct connection. Turning the MGU-K off wouldn't change this.

My theory is that they're securing the 'floating' end of the MGU-K to the chassis/tub somehow since it would normally be mounted more securely when beside the engine. This would explain why it came as a surprise after mounting everything together.

[Petebass]

ALO said "3-4 months" so we can say until Hungary or after summer break, Netherlands, we wil see only little patches here and there.

I didn't hear Alonso say 3 to 4 months. IMHO until they say "we figured out the cause" we don't know when it will be fix. Once that is said, it will be quickly followed by "and it will take X time to manufacture the fix, expect this fix for ______________" fill the gap. Until then they're just guessing and stringing us along.

Here the source;

"3-4 months to go out from the bottom, we have a huge lack of power, more in races"
Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

[mzso]

thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.

No they didn't. At least not according to what people quoted here. I only saw that it changes the vibration profile, or that the MGU casing needs to be reinforced to handle vibrations. (But that may have been 5 years ago)

Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

How is that relevant, when they haven even tried to run it at full power or RPM.

[diffuser]

ALO said "3-4 months" so we can say until Hungary or after summer break, Netherlands, we wil see only little patches here and there.

I didn't hear Alonso say 3 to 4 months. IMHO until they say "we figured out the cause" we don't know when it will be fix. Once that is said, it will be quickly followed by "and it will take X time to manufacture the fix, expect this fix for ______________" fill the gap. Until then they're just guessing and stringing us along.

Here the source;

"3-4 months to go out from the bottom, we have a huge lack of power, more in races"
Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

Yeah that's not only solving the PU. That's pulling themselves out of that bottom group. You conflating issues.

[diffuser]

thats precisely where having a team full of engineers that have a history in f1 would make a difference. i hve a hard time believing that the team honda had with redbull wouldve let something like this "slip by". they were talking about mguk being a possible cause of vibrations 3 years ago. the guy that said that is working on solar preludes now though.

No they didn't. At least not according to what people quoted here. I only saw that it changes the vibration profile, or that the MGU casing needs to be reinforced to handle vibrations. (But that may have been 5 years ago)

Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

How is that relevant, when they haven even tried to run it at full power or RPM.

On "youtube F1 uncharted" said they're carry 5 Kg of ballast to try an decrease the vibrations on top of running more fuel. So forget looking at the car performance to try to guess how much power they're down. They're not trying to go fast, just do laps.

[diffuser]

We can debate about it till we're blue in the face...Fact is we'll see in less than 2 weeks time if they have a fix for Japan or not.

You can also debate who is responsible for the vibrations and possible lack of power but it was Lawrence Stroll who signed the contract with Honda. It was then AMR's job to manage Honda and they failed. You can blame AN, sure he has his share of blame, but the problem was probably already there by the time he joined. Cowell should have been managing that relationship before AN arrived. AN probably exasperated the issue by making late chassis changes.

It is what it is. They can't go back now, they need to figure out how to dig themselves out of this. Hopefully Japan is step one out of the problem and NOT another setback.

[SSJ4]

ALO said "3-4 months" so we can say until Hungary or after summer break, Netherlands, we wil see only little patches here and there.

I didn't hear Alonso say 3 to 4 months. IMHO until they say "we figured out the cause" we don't know when it will be fix. Once that is said, it will be quickly followed by "and it will take X time to manufacture the fix, expect this fix for ______________" fill the gap. Until then they're just guessing and stringing us along.

Here the source;

"3-4 months to go out from the bottom, we have a huge lack of power, more in races"
Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

Lobato also said they’re running at 75% during qualy and 50% capacity during races. Assuming he means the engine. Also said they lost more time in corners compared to straights when comparing with teams like haas.

Would love to know heavy the car actually is. Saw yesterday red bull is over 20kg overweight

[Nikosar]

Some Reddit speculators say that Cowell was seen “in Japan overseeing Honda’s work” in February 2026. Maybe he is still there maybe not.

That Japan GP will be a hit or miss for the team…

[TyreSlip]

I didn't hear Alonso say 3 to 4 months. IMHO until they say "we figured out the cause" we don't know when it will be fix. Once that is said, it will be quickly followed by "and it will take X time to manufacture the fix, expect this fix for ______________" fill the gap. Until then they're just guessing and stringing us along.

Here the source;

"3-4 months to go out from the bottom, we have a huge lack of power, more in races"
Lobato said yesterday that "the lack of power is much more tha 50 HP", so i think is around 80 HP.

Lobato also said they’re running at 75% during qualy and 50% capacity during races. Assuming he means the engine. Also said they lost more time in corners compared to straights when comparing with teams like haas.

Would love to know heavy the car actually is. Saw yesterday red bull is over 20kg overweight

Lobato has been all over the place with the rumours this season. Krack said they were not running that much less than full capacity, so when they do, the car is not going to magically gain seconds. If they are able to control the car's vibrations, which I am still doubtful, the time gained from the small increment in power may be offset by the additional weight they will have to counter the vibrations.