2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Alonso mentioned that the vibrations were 80% better yesterday, but they returned today. Is there any onboard footage for comparison?
“Yesterday, to be honest, the car felt completely normal. Nearly no vibrations, so I was very positive. This morning I jumped in the car and I had the same vibrations as ever. And we didn't change anything, so that was a little bit difficult to understand.

“We are going through all the changes we did overnight to make sure, you know, there is something yesterday on the car that is helping the vibrations. It seems a little bit of a random thing, so let's see tomorrow if we have a lucky day.”

Asked if that was the first time he didn’t experience the vibrations, the Spanish veteran replied: “Yeah. From the testing and the first two races, yesterday was definitely 80% better.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10808960/

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Snorked wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 18:29
Alonso mentioned that the vibrations were 80% better yesterday, but they returned today. Is there any onboard footage for comparison?
“Yesterday, to be honest, the car felt completely normal. Nearly no vibrations, so I was very positive. This morning I jumped in the car and I had the same vibrations as ever. And we didn't change anything, so that was a little bit difficult to understand.

“We are going through all the changes we did overnight to make sure, you know, there is something yesterday on the car that is helping the vibrations. It seems a little bit of a random thing, so let's see tomorrow if we have a lucky day.”

Asked if that was the first time he didn’t experience the vibrations, the Spanish veteran replied: “Yeah. From the testing and the first two races, yesterday was definitely 80% better.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10808960/
Interesting they need indeed to understand why

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Jak Crawford said there were vibrations during FP1. Did Alonso drive the same car in FP2 or did they change something?
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Snorked wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 18:29
Alonso mentioned that the vibrations were 80% better yesterday, but they returned today. Is there any onboard footage for comparison?
“Yesterday, to be honest, the car felt completely normal. Nearly no vibrations, so I was very positive. This morning I jumped in the car and I had the same vibrations as ever. And we didn't change anything, so that was a little bit difficult to understand.

“We are going through all the changes we did overnight to make sure, you know, there is something yesterday on the car that is helping the vibrations. It seems a little bit of a random thing, so let's see tomorrow if we have a lucky day.”

Asked if that was the first time he didn’t experience the vibrations, the Spanish veteran replied: “Yeah. From the testing and the first two races, yesterday was definitely 80% better.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10808960/
Does lend weight to my old theory that the source (or the trigger responsible for the source) is the rear suspension's top rear wishbone arm mounted to the rear crash structure where the exhaust pipe's 'vertical stay' is attached as well. Direct transfer of tyre vibration freqs to the end of the exhaust pipe, which has good leverage (amplification) all the way to manifold attached to the ICE itself. Depending on different camber/toe/stiffness setup to the rear suspension, tyre pressures, track surface etc, the characteristics of this vibration transfer become 'random' (in situ with the fact that Honda weren't able to find this on their 'chassis spoofing rig' in Japan).
'regular' non adventurous car design have the tyre vibrations coming through the wishbones transfering to the gearbox casing, which must have some isolation (atleast some gaskets) where it meets the crank portion of the ICE.

Just a wild theory, nevertheless.

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A thought has come to my mind but I didn't want to post it because I thought they wouldn't be that stupid???!!!
That is until Alonso stated there was no vibrations on Friday but it came back on Saturday!!!

That thought I didn't want to share was...
Someone is using a sonic type weapon against the Aston Martin Team cars.
Many ways it can done but mostly a Cloaked Drone flying above the car.
Yes in my world we do have that tech!!!
I wasn't suppose to share that For your Eyes Only File :)~

That means the problem wouldn't show up a AVL or other full chassis dynos.

Probably not a sonic weapon but I personally change everything I'm near at the nano level like I produce Nanobots. :wink:
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alonso was saying the vibration in regards to bahrain testing and they were 80% better in fp2 japan. maybe its the cooling configurations they tested

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ispano6 wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 03:36
mzso wrote:
27 Mar 2026, 23:33

Though you highlighted struts, in no way he says it's because, or for the chassis. I guess the K might be vibrating around because it's only mounted at one end to the engine, which could certainly magnify the problem. Struts would help here for sure. He also says that the PU is the cause that generates the vibrations.
つっかえ棒のような部品. (a part like a "strut or brace" is for the area of the chassis that is vibrating)

I literally translated it twice in that entry that has the same meaning.

And yes, it does support my initial conjecture about chassis vibrations.

The issue alone is not due to the PU. The chassis itself contributes. Why you cannot accept this is beyond me.
I trust these Japanese publications 1000x more than italian or british press. Especially when they are Japanese writers quoting Japanese personnel.
Because the chassis is a huge piece of very strong and rigid structure, meant to survive even the biggest impacts. On the other hand many parts have the potential to vibrate, move against each other.
diffuser wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 03:14
I always thought that once you know the source of the problem...you can start the communicate how long before a fix. They're still in countermeasure mode.
Not sure if Honda ever did that. I do remember them being open about stuff that was wrong after it was fixed.
diffuser wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 05:05
I think this is actually the worst-case scenario. My money is on them not having a clue what the problem is. If they knew what the problem was, they wouldn’t be wasting time trying to isolate the battery and the steering wheel from the vibrations. They would just tell us when they’ll fix it and explain what needs to be changed.
I rather think an engine re-design is needed. So whatever can be done in the meanwhile helps.

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etusch wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 08:23
SSJ4 wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 05:57
The chassis and engine are both gp2 level
By now I also thought it is because of lack of power but no, car is also bad.
Or heavy because all the vibration dampening masses added.

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Jambier wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 19:03
Snorked wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 18:29
Alonso mentioned that the vibrations were 80% better yesterday, but they returned today. Is there any onboard footage for comparison?
“Yesterday, to be honest, the car felt completely normal. Nearly no vibrations, so I was very positive. This morning I jumped in the car and I had the same vibrations as ever. And we didn't change anything, so that was a little bit difficult to understand.

“We are going through all the changes we did overnight to make sure, you know, there is something yesterday on the car that is helping the vibrations. It seems a little bit of a random thing, so let's see tomorrow if we have a lucky day.”

Asked if that was the first time he didn’t experience the vibrations, the Spanish veteran replied: “Yeah. From the testing and the first two races, yesterday was definitely 80% better.”
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hond ... /10808960/
Interesting they need indeed to understand why
Someone forgot to switch on the vibrator.

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ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.

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Petebass wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 21:05
ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.
Link? Reference?

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mzso wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 21:09
Petebass wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 21:05
ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.
Link? Reference?

First and last part.

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Petebass wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 21:05
ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.
I think Honda WILL NOT use first ADUO opportunity.
They will be granted the right to but won’t use it…

They will use the second one, hence the 10 races from ALO

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diffuser wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 15:02


They're good at one short piece between turns 14 and turns 15 but everywhere else, they are very slow.
1 - Down the straight into turn 1 they're 20 KPH slower than Piastri and Leclerc (They lose .5 of lap time before turn 1).
2 - 10 KPH down through the Ss
3 - 5 KPH down between turns 7 and 8.
4 - 10 KPH between 9 and 10
5 - 20 KPH between 12 and 13


There is a lot of evidence that the PU is down on power and a lot of evidence that they are late gettting on the throttle coming out of corners. Meaning lack of traction, too heavy, etc.

We don't know how much extra fuel they're carrying, how much weight in counter measures they're carrying. Lots of unknowns. A car that's 40KG heavier is gonna be slower in all turns than the 40KG lighter car.
Heavier car can accelerate slower but throttle late ? I don't think so. Heavier car can get more regenerative brake too.

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Petebass wrote:
28 Mar 2026, 21:05
ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.
If true, they are planing a big change instead of modifications.