2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[draghixa]

Heavier car can get more regenerative brake too.

This is not true, it's like saying heavier car will get more down force.

[AR3-GP]

The vibrations generated by the ICE (internal combustion engine) are not particularly significant on their own, even when compared to ICEs from previous years. Even in VTT (bench test) conditions, where the engine is connected to Aston Martin’s dummy monocoque and gearbox, there are no vibrations at levels that would be considered problematic.

However, once all the components are installed and the car is actually driven on the track, the vibrations are amplified.

Initially, the battery—which is directly connected to the ICE and the monocoque—was damaged, and drivers also reported experiencing vibrations. To ensure reliability, “vibration countermeasures for the battery” were urgently implemented and achieved some success. At the Chinese Grand Prix, the only issue that occurred throughout the weekend was a power supply problem experienced by Lance Stroll during the race (the cause is currently under investigation).

However, since no measures have been taken to reduce vibrations originating from the chassis itself, it is only natural that drivers continue to suffer from vibration issues.

There are limits to how much vibration from the ICE itself can be suppressed, as mentioned earlier, since the vibration levels from the ICE are already within normal ranges. If cockpit vibrations are truly severe enough to prevent drivers from finishing the race, it is obvious that relying solely on ICE-side measures will not lead to a fundamental solution.

“We are working together [with Aston Martin and Honda] to make improvements. We are discussing what the optimal measures are to mitigate the current issues and are moving forward with improvements together. Ideally, we would address the root cause, but what we are working on with Honda is what we can achieve within the limited time available.”

https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/mot ... /17/f1_20/

The fact that Alonso says his hands AND feet lost sensation is a bit suspect. His feet? In any case, there are many who doubt that the issue is solely Honda's doing. For it would be arrogance to not question the chassis package as a major contributor to the effects.

This is an incredible interview.

[etusch]

Heavier car can get more regenerative brake too.

This is not true, it's like saying heavier car will get more down force.

do you know even what heavy mean

[Ashwinv16]

Well Alonso finished the race but i think he just did it cause its Japan and Honda. Any other track and he would have retired.

[draghixa]

Heavier car can get more regenerative brake too.

This is not true, it's like saying heavier car will get more down force.

do you know even what heavy mean

Then please explain how the weight of a car can affect the regeneration rate , by the way I drive an EV.

[diffuser]

This is not true, it's like saying heavier car will get more down force.

do you know even what heavy mean

Then please explain how the weight of a car can affect the regeneration rate , by the way I drive an EV.

Cause you have to brake earlier and longer but cause heavier, the power doesn't accelerate you as much.

[draghixa]

do you know even what heavy mean

Then please explain how the weight of a car can affect the regeneration rate , by the way I drive an EV.

Cause you have to brake earlier and longer but cause heavier, the power doesn't accelerate you as much.

I understand , but it's controlled by the driver, not the weight of the car, we can't make it sound like more weight would make more advantage of regeneration braking.

[diffuser]

Then please explain how the weight of a car can affect the regeneration rate , by the way I drive an EV.

Cause you have to brake earlier and longer but cause heavier, the power doesn't accelerate you as much.

I understand , but it's controlled by the driver, not the weight of the car, we can't make it sound like more weight would make more advantage of regeneration braking.

The weight forces the driver to brake sooner. Just like they brake later lap after lap as they burn off fuel and the car get lighter.

[draghixa]

Cause you have to brake earlier and longer but cause heavier, the power doesn't accelerate you as much.

I understand , but it's controlled by the driver, not the weight of the car, we can't make it sound like more weight would make more advantage of regeneration braking.

The weight forces the driver to brake sooner. Just like they brake later lap after lap as they burn off fuel and the car get lighter.

Then I can argue that with a heavier car you don't get as much speed as other faster cars entering corners therefore you don't need as much regen brake force to slow down the car, eventually you get less regen power. Anyway this is a bit off topic, I stop here.

[GoranF1]

So from what Alonso is saying whit the "wait a few months " they are working on B chassis?

[Jambier]

So from what Alonso is saying whit the "wait a few months " they are working on B chassis?

B chassis not sure with budget cap.
But possible because I believe they will cancel all scheduled upgrades for now.

[mzso]

Well Alonso finished the race but i think he just did it cause its Japan and Honda. Any other track and he would have retired.

Did anyone watch Alonso's on-board? What was it like?

[mzso]

If it is a zero size concept and mgu-k and battery design is for making it as small/thight as possible, there can not be much place for weights. Mass dampers are using at motogp and I remember a comment about it that only putting it on the vibrating part is not a solution. Arranging it takes time. Of course this is a car and it works quite different.
If it is fuel and you need only one lap, and if they are aiming to finish the race, low fuel, then I think they can run the car with low fuel for one lap.

All the cars on the F1 grid are zero size and they have all tried to make their cars as small, tight and as light as possible. Stop with that BS. They've been doing the "small, tight and as light as possible" thing in F1 since the 13th of May 1950. I guarantee you no teams have hundled in a meeting and asked "You think if we carry an extra 100KG we'll be faster ?".

That doesn’t mean AM have space, it just means others also have no space

If they need space, they make space and make the engine cover bigger.

[etusch]

All the cars on the F1 grid are zero size and they have all tried to make their cars as small, tight and as light as possible. Stop with that BS. They've been doing the "small, tight and as light as possible" thing in F1 since the 13th of May 1950. I guarantee you no teams have hundled in a meeting and asked "You think if we carry an extra 100KG we'll be faster ?".

That doesn’t mean AM have space, it just means others also have no space

If they need space, they make space and make the engine cover bigger.

Sure. But concept will be injured. More than that, as I said earlier putting weight without any settings will not bring desired result. It will reduce it because root of vibration should shake heavier weight. But you need to solve it you need to test and arrange dampers. And you can't do this whereever you want.
I am not saying weight is good. But it pushes tyre down, it may bring benefits at some turns and almost every braking areas.
I hope AM don't make mistakes of mclaren and both honda and Am find the solution by working together.

[etusch]

This is not true, it's like saying heavier car will get more down force.

do you know even what heavy mean

Then please explain how the weight of a car can affect the regeneration rate , by the way I drive an EV.

For example your brake bias 60/40 with 800 kg and your rear is starting to slip when you do it 55/35 with low fuel at the end of the race, but with full fuel load 900 kg, you can make it 55/35 still brakes safely. And no relation with road cars. because you don't make mapping for the road you will drive before starting drive.