2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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JordanMugen wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:37
pantherxxx wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 17:31
And without Verstappen the team is ---.
That's unfair, Hadjar - Linblad would be a solid driver lineup.
Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.

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Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39
JordanMugen wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:37
pantherxxx wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 17:31
And without Verstappen the team is ---.
That's unfair, Hadjar - Linblad would be a solid driver lineup.
Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
There's nothing wrong with that! Red Bull are no more entitled to fight for victories as Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren-Mercedes or any other emerging top team like Alpine-Mercedes, Audi or Williams-Mercedes.

It's hard to say if the Red Bull Ford power unit is competitive with the best or not, but in any case there is low hanging fruit in terms of an overweight car and very poor balance that will give a lot of lap time when, or if, they are fixed.

Wache's team that developed a strong RB21 that lost the WDC by only 2 points has obviously not forgotten how to develop a racing car.

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Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39
JordanMugen wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:37
pantherxxx wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 17:31
And without Verstappen the team is ---.
That's unfair, Hadjar - Linblad would be a solid driver lineup.
Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.

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JordanMugen wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 00:18

Wache's team that developed a strong RB21 that lost the WDC by only 2 points has obviously not forgotten how to develop a racing car.
I think refining/polishing an established car concept is entirely different than creating a brand new platform from scratch. I wait a bit more to give them a chance to tune the car & reduce the weight etc.
By the latter part of the mid-season, we’ll have a clearer picture of how Waché and co. have fared in their first project.

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For people who didn't know who Ole was, been here since the start. There will be big staff exodus when Horner joins another team, you can bet on it. The only person holding this team together is Max at this moment. We'll see how well Mekies navigates all of this, there will have to be a couple of big name hires to restore some faith and keep team morale.

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Matt-A wrote:
Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39
JordanMugen wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:37
That's unfair, Hadjar - Linblad would be a solid driver lineup.
Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.

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JordanMugen wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 00:18
Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39
JordanMugen wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:37


That's unfair, Hadjar - Linblad would be a solid driver lineup.
Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
There's nothing wrong with that! Red Bull are no more entitled to fight for victories as Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren-Mercedes or any other emerging top team like Alpine-Mercedes, Audi or Williams-Mercedes.

It's hard to say if the Red Bull Ford power unit is competitive with the best or not, but in any case there is low hanging fruit in terms of an overweight car and very poor balance that will give a lot of lap time when, or if, they are fixed.

Wache's team that developed a strong RB21 that lost the WDC by only 2 points has obviously not forgotten how to develop a racing car.
Hadjar and Lindblad wouldn't be capable of scoring any points on merit in this car. Hadjar scored in china only because of multiple DNFs ahead of him, and even there he was lucky to get back to the field thanks to the SC. RB21 wasn't strong, if you take developments into account. They were the only team that kept on investing in the car all year long whereas Mclaren for example barely touched their car since few months into the season and still held significant advantage all the way until the end staying by far the best car. Mercedes and Ferrari were not developing anything as well.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 08:59
Matt-A wrote:
Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39


Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.
I think such driver like Leclerc or Norris would’ve definitely won one…in 2023, probably 2022 as well only because of Ferrari engine reliability issues. Thats about it.

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avantman wrote:
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 08:59
Matt-A wrote: That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.
I think such driver like Leclerc or Norris would’ve definitely won one…in 2023, probably 2022 as well only because of Ferrari engine reliability issues. Thats about it.
Leclerc made a lot of mistakes '22.

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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 08:59
Matt-A wrote:
Rikhart wrote:
29 Mar 2026, 23:39


Very solid midfield team, indeed, perfect to fight for last points positions in each race.
That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.
Assuming Checo would not have won the two championships where he finished second and third and RB won the constructors titles, they would still have 8 championships. Only 6 were added with Verstappen and Perez.

Without Christian Horner, Red Bull have won zero championships.

He has been there for all 14 titles. Without Horner I think there is considerable risk that RB are more likely to leave F1 than they are to ever win a championship again.

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Matt-A wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 14:49
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 08:59
Matt-A wrote:
That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.
Assuming Checo would not have won the two championships where he finished second and third and RB won the constructors titles, they would still have 8 championships. Only 6 were added with Verstappen and Perez.

Without Christian Horner, Red Bull have won zero championships.

He has been there for all 14 titles. Without Horner I think there is considerable risk that RB are more likely to leave F1 than they are to ever win a championship again.
A meaningless fact at this point in time.

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Matt-A wrote:
Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
30 Mar 2026, 08:59
Matt-A wrote: That's exactly where they are with the Verstappens.
Lol.
How many championships would they have without Max in recent years? People forget that Max has literally carried the team, while teammates can't handle the unbalanced car. Now they have Wache's masterpiece, a designer that Horner praised.
Assuming Checo would not have won the two championships where he finished second and third and RB won the constructors titles, they would still have 8 championships. Only 6 were added with Verstappen and Perez.

Without Christian Horner, Red Bull have won zero championships.

He has been there for all 14 titles. Without Horner I think there is considerable risk that RB are more likely to leave F1 than they are to ever win a championship again.
Newey designed the cars, even with sh*tty Renault engine. Marko found Vettel and Verstappen.

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I do hope an extensive check is completed on Hadjar's car. To have respectable qualifying pace and have sectors like that is most strange :?