2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[Sedaxel]

According to formula timer, max speed of Alonso is 307. Max speed of the car just ahead (Piastri) is 317. Gasly is 327.

[Badger]

The power deficit is very significant. This is well more than 50 HP.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Alonso said he don’t expect a Q2 until race 14 (Zandvoort) which looks crazy to me now they have at least a stable engine to build performance in the car they are not going to bring new parts for 10 more races. Also, I didn’t see Honda that bad

Then probably you didn't see the telemetry and huge top speed difference. This honda engine like run 1 cylinder less

[mzso]

imma be honest, its very clear the chassis was what held them back today. Car has pace on par with the Haas despite the worn softs. Just couldnt turn into corners at all so had to be latter on throttle on corner exit. meaning got stuck behind. Also cooling issues meant lot off lift and coast.

Clear? How do you know how much extra weight these countermeasures cost?
I don't remember anyone mentioning that they got a re-designed ICE, only these "countermeasures"

[krich]

Alonso said he don’t expect a Q2 until race 14 (Zandvoort) which looks crazy to me now they have at least a stable engine to build performance in the car they are not going to bring new parts for 10 more races. Also, I didn’t see Honda that bad

Then probably you didn't see the telemetry and huge top speed difference. This honda engine like run 1 cylinder less

youre right, just seen the telemetry, its sad because on slow speed corners the car didnt look bad

[Petebass]

ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.

Now again ALO pointed Zandvoort ; (performance) "it will be after summer break" "until the race 14, it will not occur"
Source;
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp ... ra-14.html

[Waz]

Okay.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ZFGbgK5Iew

They seem to have made alot of progress with the chassis that AMR left behind in Japan.

That's the engine side. I'm wondering why they haven't brought any aero updates two months into the season.

Probably because the engine is so far behind it might get a concession on top of ADUO, and they have about 10% of the mileage of Mercedes, which means they have very little to no data about the car actually driving on track.

It's a waste of time and resources to bring aero parts until the engine is sorted.

[Bill]

Alonso said he don’t expect a Q2 until race 14 (Zandvoort) which looks crazy to me now they have at least a stable engine to build performance in the car they are not going to bring new parts for 10 more races. Also, I didn’t see Honda that bad

Then probably you didn't see the telemetry and huge top speed difference. This honda engine like run 1 cylinder less

I think they is gamemanship on aston and honda to get more concessions to develop the pu more .its perfomance on race is better than in quali.during the quali both cars reach a terminal speed for which the car cant exceed like it has bin capped at a particular speed, thats not how things look naturally.

[diffuser]

The power deficit is very significant. This is well more than 50 HP.https://i.postimg.cc/ncFhwBd1/speed(6).png

It is significant, but I wouldn’t try to put a number on it.

The way I compare chassis performance is by looking at cornering speeds. In the corners, you can see there’s a fairly balanced exchange with the RBR chassis in terms of who is faster where—it isn’t always RBR that has the advantage. So "in broad strokes" we’re competitive in the chassis department, especially in the slower sections.

If you look at the deltas between LIN and ALO, it clearly shows that Alonso loses most of his time on the straights. He’s slightly slower in Sector 1, then loses a significant amount of time from Turn 8 to Turn 11 (with Turns 9 and 10 taken flat out). From Turn 11 to Turn 16, Alonso makes some time back on LIN, but then loses a lot again from Turn 16 down to Turn 17.

[etusch]

ALO said "nothing different during next 10 races, summer or after summer". That is Zandvoort.

Now again ALO pointed Zandvoort ; (performance) "it will be after summer break" "until the race 14, it will not occur"
Source;
https://www.marca.com/motor/formula1/gp ... ra-14.html

Now they can focus on engine mapping and kinetic energy recovery optimization. Perhaps improvements to the transmission and transmission software development as well. Alonso mentioned transmission problems here. The performance updates he's talking about might be a big package. But with what I've mentioned, it's possible for them to catch the team ahead, the one-second ahead one. It's a performance update after all.

[FNTC]

Whether the PU is way behind, or if they are running it detuned still, either due to vibrations, gearbox, sandbagging for ADUO, etc is difficult to tell. But its obvious that they are running lower power than the others. And I agree that it doesn't make much sense to throw money at aero upgrades yet until they have improved the PU.

[ispano6]

Waiting for that gearbox.

Also, you won't get lap time from using your energy in a pre-determined set mode.

In this era, the driver who uses the energy in unique ways that suit the track and weaknesses of the car will prevail.

Of course, the issue is regen and weight, and a new gearbox is necessary for this. (Combustion a different issue not for this year)

[diffuser]

Whether the PU is way behind, or if they are running it detuned still, either due to vibrations, gearbox, sandbagging for ADUO, etc is difficult to tell. But its obvious that they are running lower power than the others. And I agree that it doesn't make much sense to throw money at aero upgrades yet until they have improved the PU.

I see ADUO as the main reason. After suffering through 3 races, why turn up the wick here? Plus, you just don't turn up the wick in one shot. You got to see the fallout of doing it. FP is best but I guess Sprint race is good too. They haven't done any 350 kw recovery testing. They probably haven't tested alot of the PU limits.

[GoranF1]

There isn't that big of a race pace deficit to midfield teams.Aston will make big progress after first ADUO upgrade.

[TyreSlip]

This car is definitely kinder on its tyres than the Cadillac. Alonso could have finished the race on the mediums if allowed.