2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

[gnocchiF1]

There isn't that big of a race pace deficit to midfield teams.Aston will make big progress after first ADUO upgrade.

About 1 second a lap to the last car not a Cadillac. I find that very significant.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

I wonder what happened at lap 44 with Alonso. 1:33.512. After the box did run that time. Is possible that only one lap was full the battery and after the car was struggle,with battey power?

[Rikrikrik]

There isn't that big of a race pace deficit to midfield teams.Aston will make big progress after first ADUO upgrade.

Alonso crossed the line 40 sec behind of lindblad, how this is not big?

[TyreSlip]

There isn't that big of a race pace deficit to midfield teams.Aston will make big progress after first ADUO upgrade.

About 1 second a lap to the last car not a Cadillac. I find that very significant.

It would take a 50bhp upgrade in the next ADUO for that to happen, and that would be if all the other engine manufacturers were standing still.

[TyreSlip]

I wonder what happened at lap 44 with Alonso. 1:33.512. After the box did run that time. Is possible that only one lap was full the battery and after the car was struggle,with battey power?

I remember that Alonso had to yield to Hamilton who was right behind him.

[mzso]

Whether the PU is way behind, or if they are running it detuned still, either due to vibrations, gearbox, sandbagging for ADUO, etc is difficult to tell. But its obvious that they are running lower power than the others. And I agree that it doesn't make much sense to throw money at aero upgrades yet until they have improved the PU.

I see ADUO as the main reason. After suffering through 3 races, why turn up the wick here? Plus, you just don't turn up the wick in one shot. You got to see the fallout of doing it. FP is best but I guess Sprint race is good too. They haven't done any 350 kw recovery testing. They probably haven't tested alot of the PU limits.

You guys are making logical leaps with ADUO. The FIA has all the info on how they run their engines. It would be too pathetic even for the FIA, if simply running the ICE de-tuned would be enough to grant upgrades. It would make this championship a de-tuning contest.

[diffuser]

Whether the PU is way behind, or if they are running it detuned still, either due to vibrations, gearbox, sandbagging for ADUO, etc is difficult to tell. But its obvious that they are running lower power than the others. And I agree that it doesn't make much sense to throw money at aero upgrades yet until they have improved the PU.

I see ADUO as the main reason. After suffering through 3 races, why turn up the wick here? Plus, you just don't turn up the wick in one shot. You got to see the fallout of doing it. FP is best but I guess Sprint race is good too. They haven't done any 350 kw recovery testing. They probably haven't tested alot of the PU limits.

You guys are making logical leaps with ADUO. The FIA has all the info on how they run their engines. It would be too pathetic even for the FIA, if simply running the ICE de-tuned would be enough to grant upgrades. It would make this championship a de-tuning contest.

Right, why change now?

During the race, on the first set of tires, by the end of that stint, Alonso wasn’t even going into 8th gear down the back straight and didn’t hit 300 km/h. It was probably because the tires were so worn that he didn’t want to brake from high speed.

[vassilispapadop]

That was essentially AMR’s first proper day of testing. They’re about three months behind on the development curve, but there are still some encouraging signs as they seem to have found 1.5s/lap in race trim

[V10FURY]

Small progress with both cars finishing the race and Alonso fighting Perez for 15th place, one lap down. It sounds like Alonso believes it will be another 10 races before they are fighting Haas/Williams/Racing Bulls, and are clear of Cadillac. If the team can sort the gearbox, upgrade the chassis and find at least 50hp then that seems possible. The question is how long will all of these items take to implant, and can that happen before 2027. That seems very unlikely at this time but I hope I am wrong. It would be awesome to see Alonso fighting closer to the front soon.

[V10FURY]

That was essentially AMR’s first proper day of testing. They’re about three months behind on the development curve, but there are still some encouraging signs as they seem to have found 1.5s/lap in race trim

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I agree this was equivalent to Aston’s final test day before starting the season at the next race. So far behind every other team at this stage.

[Sedaxel]

Yeah, but Alonso said that, until the 14th race, the less practice sessions, the better. It seems they don't need more data for this car. I don't know...

[TyreSlip]

Yeah, but Alonso said that, until the 14th race, the less practice sessions, the better. It seems they don't need more data for this car. I don't know...

Alonso said it was not budget cap friendly to bring a bunch of updates when they are 1 second behind the next best team. They could bring a big car upgrade but with the current Honda, they will still be the 10th fastest team.

It makes sense to save more resources for 2027 and for the second half of the season with a hypothetically more powerful engine.

[zoroastar]

Yeah, he said he was 0.4s slower at the beginning of his fast lap due to gearbox not responding as it should. Well, I think they are far better than were in Melbourne. The question is... Will they be able to develop this platform to make it competitive?

i dont think theres any doubt that they will improve. becoming "competitive" depends on a lot of factors though. and competitive with who? lol for the first time i think we can have faith that the guys running things arent gonna continuously bring upgrades that dont work, like in the past. neweys not perfect, but he didn't get where hes at by being satisfied that getting points is good enough either. give him a stable platform to work on and hell make it fast/competitive.

I think this Qualifying, today, is the first time they REALLY take data from FP and change the setup for qualifying and REALLY push the car hard around the track. Before today they were just babying the car around the tracks, they couldn't because of the vibrations. You don't learn anything from the chassis that way.

yeah i agree. the development has sat at zero until they could run the car in race mode instead of "survive mode". thats sortof what i meant by having a stable platform. hopefully they have a lot of data to work with from this point on.

[zoroastar]

Exactly. Quite a few people on here weren't happy to entertain the idea the gearbox fragility is playing a part. Based off the last sessions, the engine is far from the biggest issue now.

Yes people here talk like aston are the one that won world champion and honda is holding them back .the car has many issues and took honda tools to help iron out problems.the pu in the first races was not been pushed,with more upgrades the engine will reach top position very soon

Now that is funny.

a sad kind of funny, if there is such a thing

[zoroastar]

This car is definitely kinder on its tyres than the Cadillac. Alonso could have finished the race on the mediums if allowed.

yeah i was about to mention that. until the changes in the rules this weekend, the tires have been dramatically under stressed for just about everybody. itll be interesting to see if aston continue to be that good on their tires, or if it was alonso. stroll pitted to cover the cadillac i guess. i dont know if he really needed to. i was wondering how much of alonsos race was testing tires and aero balance behind other cars. he seemed to be trying to entertain himself without a chance for points.