2026 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 01 - 03

[michl420]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

The question from me is, why have they not got competent monitoring LIVE of that exit line to formulate, in realistic time, the penalty that is given to it ?

It just shouldn't need much level of analysis and debate from those controlling it to undermine the process. Do this properly, or it looses credibility for all competitors.

That is of course possible, but I assume that there is at least one camera on that. Practically the onbard camera should be enough.

[rbirules]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

Most recent penalties for crossing the line at pit exit (according to Gemini):
- Verstappen 2024 Australian GP: 5-Second penalty
- Sargeant 2024 Miami GP: 5-Second penalty
- Tsunoda 2023 Spanish GP: 5-Second penalty
- Perez 2023 Abu Dhabi GP: 5-Second penalty
- Stroll 2023 British GP: 5-Second penalty

Also Albon and Lewis got 5 second penalties for crossing the line at pit entry in Austria 2024.

I'm not sure how far back you are remembering with the statement that this infraction "was always a drive through", but all of the most recent incidents have been 5 second penalties.

[michl420]

For information, reachard limits in Miami were 8 MJ in qualy and 8,5 MJ in the race (the same as in Japan)!

[michl420]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

Most recent penalties for crossing the line at pit exit (according to Gemini):
- Verstappen 2024 Australian GP: 5-Second penalty
- Sargeant 2024 Miami GP: 5-Second penalty
- Tsunoda 2023 Spanish GP: 5-Second penalty
- Perez 2023 Abu Dhabi GP: 5-Second penalty
- Stroll 2023 British GP: 5-Second penalty

Also Albon and Lewis got 5 second penalties for crossing the line at pit entry in Austria 2024.

I'm not sure how far back you are remembering with the statement that this infraction "was always a drive through", but all of the most recent incidents have been 5 second penalties.

I was more thinking of 20 years but it comes apparently to 5 second. As long at it is constant I am fine with it. Most important is a fast decision of the stewards.

[lh13]

- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

Yes, it's fishy that a driver gets a meaningless 5s post-race penalty for crossing the pitlane line. The in-race penalty for that is a drive through which equates to a post-race 20s time penalty.

Since when? There is no reason to spread misinformation just because you don't like a driver.

[FW17]

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

[karana]

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

Cars coming out of the pits can fight the cars on track until the SC line, even under SC.

[Just_a_fan]

- A certain driver gets surprisingly well off the hook with punishments. Remarkable. Is this skill or just fishy?

Yes, it's fishy that a driver gets a meaningless 5s post-race penalty for crossing the pitlane line. The in-race penalty for that is a drive through which equates to a post-race 20s time penalty.

That is actually not what I meant, but ok

I know you meant a certain other driver, but funnily enough certain other drivers get away with things too.

[Just_a_fan]

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

The rule applies during the entire event and ensures that drivers don't suddenly jink out in front of another car already on the straight - the other car might be weaving to warm tyres, for example, and so be close to the pit lane exit lane.

[FW17]

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

Cars coming out of the pits can fight the cars on track until the SC line, even under SC.

So the rules are not clear

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

The rule applies during the entire event and ensures that drivers don't suddenly jink out in front of another car already on the straight - the other car might be weaving to warm tyres, for example, and so be close to the pit lane exit lane.

So was there a car nearby that was disadvantaged by MV putting a wheel across the line?

[Just_a_fan]

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

Cars coming out of the pits can fight the cars on track until the SC line, even under SC.

So the rules are not clear

Crossing pilt lane exit line penalty is applicable to racing situation. Why is it being applied when race in nutalized behind safety car?

Are track limit violations applicable when. behind safety car?

The rule applies during the entire event and ensures that drivers don't suddenly jink out in front of another car already on the straight - the other car might be weaving to warm tyres, for example, and so be close to the pit lane exit lane.

So was there a car nearby that was disadvantaged by MV putting a wheel across the line?

It's not a question of advantage, it's a black and white safety rule. Quite simply: thou shall not cross the line.

[CjC]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

Most recent penalties for crossing the line at pit exit (according to Gemini):
- Verstappen 2024 Australian GP: 5-Second penalty
- Sargeant 2024 Miami GP: 5-Second penalty
- Tsunoda 2023 Spanish GP: 5-Second penalty
- Perez 2023 Abu Dhabi GP: 5-Second penalty
- Stroll 2023 British GP: 5-Second penalty

Also Albon and Lewis got 5 second penalties for crossing the line at pit entry in Austria 2024.

I'm not sure how far back you are remembering with the statement that this infraction "was always a drive through", but all of the most recent incidents have been 5 second penalties.

Thanks for this, my memory is terrible these days.
I too was bemused by the 5 second penalty as I also thought crossing the pit exit line incurred quite a severe penalty from the years gone by. Turns out it was decades gone by 20+ years for me watching the sport now.

I’m glad to see the penalty applied consistently, however are the penalties for this particular infraction structured? For example if a driver blatantly cuts the line immediately out of the pits to cut in front of a fellow competitor for competitive reasons and goes on to win the race by 20 odd seconds will they incur a harsher penalty? The white line is for safety reasons after all.

[rbirules]

Crossing pit exit line was always drive trough. Simple black and with. If such easy desicions are not possible anymore, than they need a 2 hour conference after every race.

Most recent penalties for crossing the line at pit exit (according to Gemini):
- Verstappen 2024 Australian GP: 5-Second penalty
- Sargeant 2024 Miami GP: 5-Second penalty
- Tsunoda 2023 Spanish GP: 5-Second penalty
- Perez 2023 Abu Dhabi GP: 5-Second penalty
- Stroll 2023 British GP: 5-Second penalty

Also Albon and Lewis got 5 second penalties for crossing the line at pit entry in Austria 2024.

I'm not sure how far back you are remembering with the statement that this infraction "was always a drive through", but all of the most recent incidents have been 5 second penalties.

Thanks for this, my memory is terrible these days.
I too was bemused by the 5 second penalty as I also thought crossing the pit exit line incurred quite a severe penalty from the years gone by. Turns out it was decades gone by 20+ years for me watching the sport now.

I’m glad to see the penalty applied consistently, however are the penalties for this particular infraction structured? For example if a driver blatantly cuts the line immediately out of the pits to cut in front of a fellow competitor for competitive reasons and goes on to win the race by 20 odd seconds will they incur a harsher penalty? The white line is for safety reasons after all.

I have no idea, but I would imagine if it was done blatantly to gain an advantage, and was not given back, the stewards would give a harsher penalty. Didn't Russell blatantly cut the chicane in Monaco last year to pass a slower car and get a very large penalty? I would assume a similar thing would happen in the situation you are describing.

[FW17]

Why Sainz and Lawson did not get penalties for moving under braking while defending?

[karana]

Most recent penalties for crossing the line at pit exit (according to Gemini):
- Verstappen 2024 Australian GP: 5-Second penalty
- Sargeant 2024 Miami GP: 5-Second penalty
- Tsunoda 2023 Spanish GP: 5-Second penalty
- Perez 2023 Abu Dhabi GP: 5-Second penalty
- Stroll 2023 British GP: 5-Second penalty

Also Albon and Lewis got 5 second penalties for crossing the line at pit entry in Austria 2024.

I'm not sure how far back you are remembering with the statement that this infraction "was always a drive through", but all of the most recent incidents have been 5 second penalties.

Thanks for this, my memory is terrible these days.
I too was bemused by the 5 second penalty as I also thought crossing the pit exit line incurred quite a severe penalty from the years gone by. Turns out it was decades gone by 20+ years for me watching the sport now.

I’m glad to see the penalty applied consistently, however are the penalties for this particular infraction structured? For example if a driver blatantly cuts the line immediately out of the pits to cut in front of a fellow competitor for competitive reasons and goes on to win the race by 20 odd seconds will they incur a harsher penalty? The white line is for safety reasons after all.

I have no idea, but I would imagine if it was done blatantly to gain an advantage, and was not given back, the stewards would give a harsher penalty. Didn't Russell blatantly cut the chicane in Monaco last year to pass a slower car and get a very large penalty? I would assume a similar thing would happen in the situation you are describing.

The penalty for crossing a line at pit exit dangerously is drive-through or 10s stop and go according to the penalty guidelines. https://api.fia.com/sites/default/files ... elines.pdf