2026 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Emag]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2052088700671279485

Skinner pushed for the concept that was used for the launch car, against the wishes of wache. Bit of a James Key mclaren '23 situation in my opinion

Doesn’t Wache have the last word when it comes to what concept they chase? He is the TD.

[Silent Storm]

https://twitter.com/i/status/2052088700671279485

Skinner pushed for the concept that was used for the launch car, against the wishes of wache. Bit of a James Key mclaren '23 situation in my opinion

Doesn’t Wache have the last word when it comes to what concept they chase? He is the TD.

Correct, Wache is in charge of overall direction.

[Cassius]

Skinner pushed for the concept that was used for the launch car, against the wishes of wache. Bit of a James Key mclaren '23 situation in my opinion

Doesn’t Wache have the last word when it comes to what concept they chase? He is the TD.

Correct, Wache is in charge of overall direction.

It is more likely that Skinner since his appointment as chief designer in 2022 has not been performing at the level RB/Wache demands.

Wache is overall responsible but to get the best out of people you need a certain degree of freedom in decision making. It could be Skinner was more often on the wrong side in discussions (e.g the 23/24 car issues and now with the wrong sidepod design)

[basti313]

That first lap was the worst performance I have seen from Verstappen in many years. The spin can happen (and saved it, well done), but he went a bit overboard after that.

??? What do you mean with "overbaord". His tires were surely cooking after the spin, so he had to deal with the swimming car on a aggressive first lap.

I would rather criticize, that both errors, the spin and the crossing of the line, are errors that usually do not and should not happen to him. Also the start was not good....getting to a point where you need to question why always the same drivers have bad starts (e.g. Russel had again a better start than Ant).
I am starting to think that these errors are not normal but have something to do with concentration.

Besides that it was a fantastic weekend. I dare say Verstappen is a title contender. Just hope this upgrade was not an one-off, but they can keep progressing.

Come on...

Come on, what? The car is fast, the difference is night and day, there is a lot more potential (weight for starters), there's more than 1 team/driver in it, and Verstappen is still the best driver so being thereabouts is enough performancewise. Honestly, disregarding final result, this was a mega positive weekend.

I do not think that Merc is even showing their hand on the engine. Last race was Merc vs. McLaren and then...long nothing. Both run the same Merc engine in the same (turned down?) power setting.
Ferrari universe is speaking about a 4% ADUO hope...and, still, besides Toto there is no real source that the Ford is good or also close to 4% ADUO (there is not a big difference to Ferrari on track).
I fear that any time RedBull gets closer, Merc just turns it up a bit more.

[Cassius]

??? What do you mean with "overbaord". His tires were surely cooking after the spin, so he had to deal with the swimming car on a aggressive first lap.

I would rather criticize, that both errors, the spin and the crossing of the line, are errors that usually do not and should not happen to him. Also the start was not good....getting to a point where you need to question why always the same drivers have bad starts (e.g. Russel had again a better start than Ant).
I am starting to think that these errors are not normal but have something to do with concentration.


Come on...

Come on, what? The car is fast, the difference is night and day, there is a lot more potential (weight for starters), there's more than 1 team/driver in it, and Verstappen is still the best driver so being thereabouts is enough performancewise. Honestly, disregarding final result, this was a mega positive weekend.

I do not think that Merc is even showing their hand on the engine. Last race was Merc vs. McLaren and then...long nothing. Both run the same Merc engine in the same (turned down?) power setting.
Ferrari universe is speaking about a 4% ADUO hope...and, still, besides Toto there is no real source that the Ford is good or also close to 4% ADUO (there is not a big difference to Ferrari on track).
I fear that any time RedBull gets closer, Merc just turns it up a bit more.

There is no incentive to turn down the engine for sandbagging as FIA measures ADUO not from race performance.

[basti313]

Come on, what? The car is fast, the difference is night and day, there is a lot more potential (weight for starters), there's more than 1 team/driver in it, and Verstappen is still the best driver so being thereabouts is enough performancewise. Honestly, disregarding final result, this was a mega positive weekend.

I do not think that Merc is even showing their hand on the engine. Last race was Merc vs. McLaren and then...long nothing. Both run the same Merc engine in the same (turned down?) power setting.
Ferrari universe is speaking about a 4% ADUO hope...and, still, besides Toto there is no real source that the Ford is good or also close to 4% ADUO (there is not a big difference to Ferrari on track).
I fear that any time RedBull gets closer, Merc just turns it up a bit more.

There is no incentive to turn down the engine for sandbagging as FIA measures ADUO not from race performance.

Of course there is politics. What FIA measures is one thing, but further visual dominance will cause media and other teams get screaming.

[organic]

Piastri as the verstappen replacement is today's rumour lol

[collindsilva]

Piastri as the verstappen replacement is today's rumour lol

Where would Verstappen go...

[Paa]

Piastri as the verstappen replacement is today's rumour lol

Where would Verstappen go...

If Piastri is the replacement, then...?

[venkyhere]

According to Montoya, that's all luck. What does Yelistener know, he is just a person of the internet, not a racing driver.

[Emag]

These freeze-framed videos oversell it a bit. This is all driver-instinct. He is not actively thinking about performing any of these micro-actions. It just happens because of driver feel in the car.

Can anyone do it? No, not really. But it’s also true you can be at the mercy of physics sometimes and what you see it’s not always intentional. That’s all luck is underplaying it, and comes off as a sour grapes sort of comment. But it’s also not something to put a driver on pedestal about. Max has plenty to praise. Spinning on lap 1 shouldn’t be one of those things.

[FW17]

These freeze-framed videos oversell it a bit. This is all driver-instinct. He is not actively thinking about performing any of these micro-actions. It just happens because of driver feel in the car.

Can anyone do it? No, not really. But it’s also true you can be at the mercy of physics sometimes and what you see it’s not always intentional. That’s all luck is underplaying it, and comes off as a sour grapes sort of comment. But it’s also not something to put a driver on pedestal about. Max has plenty to praise. Spinning on lap 1 shouldn’t be one of those things.

Are you saying all drivers have the same instinct?

[Emag]

These freeze-framed videos oversell it a bit. This is all driver-instinct. He is not actively thinking about performing any of these micro-actions. It just happens because of driver feel in the car.

Can anyone do it? No, not really. But it’s also true you can be at the mercy of physics sometimes and what you see it’s not always intentional. That’s all luck is underplaying it, and comes off as a sour grapes sort of comment. But it’s also not something to put a driver on pedestal about. Max has plenty to praise. Spinning on lap 1 shouldn’t be one of those things.

Are you saying all drivers have the same instinct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPjf-jtXMQU

Read again what I wrote

[FW17]

These freeze-framed videos oversell it a bit. This is all driver-instinct. He is not actively thinking about performing any of these micro-actions. It just happens because of driver feel in the car.

Can anyone do it? No, not really. But it’s also true you can be at the mercy of physics sometimes and what you see it’s not always intentional. That’s all luck is underplaying it, and comes off as a sour grapes sort of comment. But it’s also not something to put a driver on pedestal about. Max has plenty to praise. Spinning on lap 1 shouldn’t be one of those things.

Are you saying all drivers have the same instinct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPjf-jtXMQU

Read again what I wrote

if it wasn't sour grapes, you would not be posting on this

[Emag]

Are you saying all drivers have the same instinct?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPjf-jtXMQU

Read again what I wrote

if it wasn't sour grapes, you would not be posting on this

No, I am posting this because it is silly to praise a 4x WDC for spinning on lap 1.