2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

[Luscion]

Not quite sure how to feel about that. Lewis kinda messed up his Q3…but Mercedes are out of reach

The mistake most likely cost him P3 as he's only 0.046 secs off Norris in P3 but i dont think he was ever touching the Mercs come Q3

[AR3-GP]

Leclerc always seems to struggle on this track for some reason.

[Luscion]

Not quite sure how to feel about that. Lewis kinda messed up his Q3…but Mercedes are out of reach

Yeah Lewis was up on everyone after S2. S3 was always going to be weaker but the wide moment at the hairpin cost him a bunch of time - will be interesting what he thought was possible with a clean lap.

In the whole of SQ, Lewis seemed better than leclerc who at the end was complaining about cars on prep laps stopping him get his tyres in the right window. He didn’t look at any point to have the pace yet though.

Tbh I still think a car 3 tenths off the best is reasonable progress, especially on a track with a long straight and until engine can be changed. I want more but I still think the trajectory is decent.

Yup, 0.293 secs off a Merc and 0.046 off the Mclaren both with a fair amount of upgrades this weekend on a track that doesnt really suit the Ferrari is pretty good, i expected ferrari to be much further off this weekend

[AR3-GP]

Yup, 0.293 secs off a Merc and 0.046 off the Mclaren both with a fair amount of upgrades this weekend on a track that doesnt really suit the Ferrari is pretty good, i expected ferrari to be much further off this weekend

I think like Toto said to Sky, we should wait until the main qualifying to see the real gaps. I don't know who it will favor, but in Miami things changed a bit compared to the sprint.

[matt_b]

Lewis lost 0.266 tenths in S3 compared to his previous lap which would've put him P3 and within a tenths of P1 had he at least matched it, I am shocked how close they are to the Mercedes in that session to be honest.

[Luscion]

Yup, 0.293 secs off a Merc and 0.046 off the Mclaren both with a fair amount of upgrades this weekend on a track that doesnt really suit the Ferrari is pretty good, i expected ferrari to be much further off this weekend

I think like Toto said to Sky, we should wait until the main qualifying to see the real gaps. I don't know who it will favor, but in Miami things changed a bit compared to the sprint.

Thats true

[djones]

Two questions please as I’m not keeping very current these days:

1. When are Ferrari allowed to run an upgraded engine?

2. When is the compression ratio test changed?

Thanks

[Luscion]

Two questions please as I’m not keeping very current these days:

1. When are Ferrari allowed to run an upgraded engine?

2. When is the compression ratio test changed?

Thanks

After Canada the ADUO will the granted to the teams that qualify and then they can bring the upgraded engine whenever they want, iirc Ferrari are expected to bring theirs at either Austria or Spa

Compression ratio test is June 1st measuring when the engine is at ambient temperature as well as when its is at 130c, from 2027 only in operating conditions at 130c

[f1316]

Lewis lost 0.266 tenths in S3 compared to his previous lap which would've put him P3 and within a tenths of P1 had he at least matched it, I am shocked how close they are to the Mercedes in that session to be honest.

Yeah, if you watch the moment at the hairpin, it’s quite wide and would have cost time both in the corner itself and all the way down the straight. Such a shame as it was a really great lap otherwise.

[djones]

Two questions please as I’m not keeping very current these days:

1. When are Ferrari allowed to run an upgraded engine?

2. When is the compression ratio test changed?

Thanks

After Canada the ADUO will the granted to the teams that qualify and then they can bring the upgraded engine whenever they want, iirc Ferrari are expected to bring theirs at either Austria or Spa

Compression ratio test is June 1st measuring when the engine is at ambient temperature as well as when its is at 130c, from 2027 only in operating conditions at 130c

Thanks.

So if the compression ratio is a factor in Mercedes speed we will see this after Canada.

[DJ Downforce]

Two questions please as I’m not keeping very current these days:

1. When are Ferrari allowed to run an upgraded engine?

2. When is the compression ratio test changed?

Thanks

After Canada the ADUO will the granted to the teams that qualify and then they can bring the upgraded engine whenever they want, iirc Ferrari are expected to bring theirs at either Austria or Spa

Compression ratio test is June 1st measuring when the engine is at ambient temperature as well as when its is at 130c, from 2027 only in operating conditions at 130c

Thanks.

So if the compression ratio is a factor in Mercedes speed we will see this after Canada.

TRUTH NUKE: it wont make any difference

[Emag]

I dont think it will make any meaningful difference either. People focus on the headlines, even though nobody really knows exactly what Mercedes has done with their engines. Its bold of people to assume their entire advantage lies in this gray area, as if Mercedes weren’t the favorites of having the strongest PU this year anyway, regardless of what some call “cheating”.

[sypack]

Lewis lost 0.266 tenths in S3 compared to his previous lap which would've put him P3 and within a tenths of P1 had he at least matched it, I am shocked how close they are to the Mercedes in that session to be honest.

We've seen this before and come qualifying they will be further back.

[deadhead]

Leclerc always seems to struggle on this track for some reason.

He’s got a negative record vs. teammates in qualifying here

[PlatinumZealot]

There is no confirmation on this turbo size rumour.

A smart engineer who has learned from the previous regulations will always go the maximum turbo size considering the engines are hybrid, and always thinks about race pace not just the start of the race.

I have been vocal on this. It would be silly to run a smaller turbo when you need as much power as possible in the higher rev range of the engine.

I feel Fred is playing reverse psychology here. The Ferrari starts are good because they have a solution for it and wanted to keep an advantage not because they have a small turbo. Why would you purposely make an engine weak for 98% percent of race? When you have overtaking aids?

I am with you. There is no suggestion from anyone at Ferrari that a smaller turbo was chosen. The only thing Fred said was that they designed the power unit as a whole to start well.

For all we know, they worked on how to spool the turbo quickly. Or, a completely different method of getting off the line quickly. Ferrari have plenty of experience with starting systems.

Well every reputable journalist - who have inside sources in the teams - is reporting that Ferrari has a smaller turbo. Bear in mind: 1) Ferrari is widely believed to have used a smaller turbo in the last rules cycles so likely see other benefits as well 2) Fred called this a tradeoff worth 1 tenth per lap - so we’re likely talking smallER but very small differences.

In any case, this isn’t really the point - everyone is reporting Ferrari have a smaller turbo, you don’t believe it…fine. But what PlatinumZealot said was that Ferrari could have changed something and *chose* not to - I’m trying to understand what it is you think they could have changed and, if so, why they would have actively made a choice not to do something that was beneficial given new start procedure?

Ferrari had a small turbo in 2014.. Then they changed to a very big one in 2015... This was well documented here on this Forum. This played out well till the end of 2019 when Ferrari were formidable on the straights before the fuel flow trick was banned. But you don't allow more fuel without a huge turbo. After that they still kept a bigass turbo.

Forget the journalists. It just doesn't make engineering sense to use a small turbo if you have this amount of hybrid electric power. The turbo is an easy scapegoat for a weak combustion design. There is no way even the regular car mechanics will evem see the diameter of the turbine wheel, usually just the engine department will actually have seen it.

Perhaps ferrari combustion design is good at low end torque but weak at higher rpms... We just dont know.