Newcomers to the level of F1, you know... and the very fact the fuel itself is a challenge.madridista wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 18:48aramcos fuel is terrible, great point. Ive smelled it from the grandstands, at least 10-15hp less
How do you know it's terrible ?ispano6 wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:03Newcomers to the level of F1, you know... and the very fact the fuel itself is a challenge.madridista wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 18:48aramcos fuel is terrible, great point. Ive smelled it from the grandstands, at least 10-15hp less
Perhaps FIA can level the playing field then and use a single fuel? I'm sure there will be objection to that too.
it smells like popcorn. if it smelled like fried chicken itd be 15-20 hp down. they need to make it smell like french fries like petronas. obviouslydiffuser wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:13How do you know it's terrible ?ispano6 wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:03Newcomers to the level of F1, you know... and the very fact the fuel itself is a challenge.madridista wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 18:48aramcos fuel is terrible, great point. Ive smelled it from the grandstands, at least 10-15hp less
Perhaps FIA can level the playing field then and use a single fuel? I'm sure there will be objection to that too.
I don't know, Madridista said it's terrible. I know from Honda personnel's comments that extracting energy from the fuel has been a major challenge, and continues to be so. Don't underestimate the difference in the quality of race fuel.diffuser wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:13How do you know it's terrible ?ispano6 wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:03Newcomers to the level of F1, you know... and the very fact the fuel itself is a challenge.madridista wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 18:48aramcos fuel is terrible, great point. Ive smelled it from the grandstands, at least 10-15hp less
Perhaps FIA can level the playing field then and use a single fuel? I'm sure there will be objection to that too.
You know the FIA imposes min/max bounds for the fuel?
RON octane between roughly 95 and 102
density around 720–785 kg/m³
lower heating value (energy content) around 38–41 MJ/kg
I don't but let's no start jumping to conclusions.ispano6 wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:49I don't know, Madridista said it's terrible. I know from Honda personnel's comments that extracting energy from the fuel has been a major challenge, and continues to be so. Don't underestimate the difference in the quality of race fuel.
How good the fuel is would be one of the hardest things for anyone to actually know or quantify. So whoever said that... absolute nonsense. There is no way to know objectively how good any compound is compared to another without some form of completely transparent analysis across all fuels. Which has never happened. We don't even definitely know who had the best fuel in the last regs.diffuser wrote: ↑25 May 2026, 00:17I don't but let's no start jumping to conclusions.
It would be nice to see the numbers. I'm sure the FIA has them.
The FIA has rules for it so it must be measured.GhostF1 wrote: ↑25 May 2026, 01:05How good the fuel is would be one of the hardest things for anyone to actually know or quantify. So whoever said that... absolute nonsense. There is no way to know objectively how good any compound is compared to another without some form of completely transparent analysis across all fuels. Which has never happened. We don't even definitely know who had the best fuel in the last regs.
Try it yourself friend. When the Mercedes passed by today i payed attention very closely, Petronas smells really different...fast.. gives 20-30hp minimum. Aramco has to work on that, then they can fight at the top for sureispano6 wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 23:03Newcomers to the level of F1, you know... and the very fact the fuel itself is a challenge.madridista wrote: ↑24 May 2026, 18:48aramcos fuel is terrible, great point. Ive smelled it from the grandstands, at least 10-15hp less
Perhaps FIA can level the playing field then and use a single fuel? I'm sure there will be objection to that too.