2026 Canadian Grand Prix - Montreal, May 22 - 24

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How many strikes did each of them get by the way? Or aren't track limits a thing anymore?

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Jeez. The McLaren strategy department is in full Ferrari mode still. I though signing Will Courtenay would improve things...

By the way it was interesting what they talked about in the cooldown room. That it's "not that hard" to follow yet, but the cars become very unstable when close behind.

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mzso wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:32
Jeez. The McLaren strategy department is in full Ferrari mode still. I though signing Will Courtenay would improve things...

By the way it was interesting what they talked about in the cooldown room. That it's "not that hard" to follow yet, but the cars become very unstable when close behind.
At Least they should have gone with split strategy, interns on 1 and soft on other, why would u put both your driver on similar tyre in such a conditions ..

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avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 08:47
DJ Downforce wrote:
25 May 2026, 02:30
avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 00:43


Overtakes were literally yoyo overtakes = power surges.
Hamilton definitely surged past Verstappen with a pu 30hp down on the RBPT :lol:
On that straight he was probably more like 100+ hp up and of course Verstappen had no battery to defend with on that straight. The move was completed in the straight line, not even in the corner.
The qualifying and first stint showed the cars to be pretty equal. In the last stint Hamilton was plain better at maintaining tyre temperatures. In a car with much less HP than the RBPT, impressive.

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venkyhere wrote:
25 May 2026, 01:01
AR3-GP wrote:
25 May 2026, 00:49
avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 00:43


Overtakes were literally yoyo overtakes = power surges.
It wasn't a slam dunk pass ad repass like earlier in the year. Drivers had to actually drive well for consecutive laps and keep the driver in front under pressure. When they overtook, they didn't just become a sitting duck for a repass.
We didn't see much yo-yo 'within one lap' because of the track layout where there is really only one long straight. And the reason for yo-yo between the mercs in the first quarter of the race, was because once every 2/3 laps, one of them would get their T10 braking wrong, due to the low grip from overnight/morning rain. We didn't see much yo-yo, not because the regulation changes solved it, it was because the layout of the track gave enough 'can't pass, but can recharge' opportunity between T1 and T10.
Russel goes off track at turn 10, gets overtaken in that corner and then he is ahead by the next corner???

Disgusting!!!!

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Am I the only one thinking the broadcast quality dreadful? Kept missing action, and some of them only got replayed in miniature. We get a mystical VSC with no info shown on why it happened. Hadjar served a stop/go, but the reason was not given, we could only assume it was from whatever yellow flag violation, that was never shown. The shown something in miniature on the right side that covered up the action, etc... There was a whole bunch of stuff.

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DJ Downforce wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:40
avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 08:47
DJ Downforce wrote:
25 May 2026, 02:30


Hamilton definitely surged past Verstappen with a pu 30hp down on the RBPT :lol:
On that straight he was probably more like 100+ hp up and of course Verstappen had no battery to defend with on that straight. The move was completed in the straight line, not even in the corner.
The qualifying and first stint showed the cars to be pretty equal. In the last stint Hamilton was plain better at maintaining tyre temperatures. In a car with much less HP than the RBPT, impressive.
Ferrari had the better car here. Lewis screwed up his final run in Q3, should be been on second row. And because his earlier mistake in the first stint he had to make up a 7 second gap to Max. It was closer than it should be been.

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Aesop wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:52
DJ Downforce wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:40
avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 08:47


On that straight he was probably more like 100+ hp up and of course Verstappen had no battery to defend with on that straight. The move was completed in the straight line, not even in the corner.
The qualifying and first stint showed the cars to be pretty equal. In the last stint Hamilton was plain better at maintaining tyre temperatures. In a car with much less HP than the RBPT, impressive.
Ferrari had the better car here. Lewis screwed up his final run in Q3, should be been on second row. And because his earlier mistake in the first stint he had to make up a 7 second gap to Max. It was closer than it should be been.
1) on his final q3 lap the SM mode failed to enable so not his fault

2) Verstappen passed Hamilton in the first stint showcasing the great pace of the Red Bull RBPT car. The mistake came later trying to keep up with a bullet on the straights

3) Hamilton was best at keeping the tyres in the window in the last stint, maybe Antonelli was the only one who came close!

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Mercedes Duel in Montreal - A thriller Until Lap 30 | 13 full onboard laps w/ radio

https://youtu.be/kns-wRGi35Y?si=1UZ6cobyJfwfq5xw
That was far far lesser quality battle than I initially thought. All overtaking looksd still horrible and mario kart. Even big mistakes made by both drivers weren't forced, all completely unforced. Russell going off track to defend the position in the final chicane lap 24. This is why he was under investigation. Not as bad as blatant as Max vs Ham in Brazil in 2021 but in essence exactly the same violation.
Looking up laptime data sheets, the ultimate winner lost around 8-10 seconds of race time during that fight with teammate, making those mistakes and switching positions. After Russell retirement he was obviously cruising whereas drivers behind pushing flatout (yes, this still happens in F1 at times). Once again our championship leader won a one- horse race, well done. ! 👏

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mzso wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:43
Am I the only one thinking the broadcast quality dreadful? Kept missing action, and some of them only got replayed in miniature. We get a mystical VSC with no info shown on why it happened. Hadjar served a stop/go, but the reason was not given, we could only assume it was from whatever yellow flag violation, that was never shown. The shown something in miniature on the right side that covered up the action, etc... There was a whole bunch of stuff.
no, everyone complained, it was truly horrific. Worst ever imho. Maybe they outsourced the production to AI, (very)low-IQ-Aliens or friends and family.
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FrukostScones wrote:
25 May 2026, 14:39
mzso wrote:
25 May 2026, 11:43
Am I the only one thinking the broadcast quality dreadful? Kept missing action, and some of them only got replayed in miniature. We get a mystical VSC with no info shown on why it happened. Hadjar served a stop/go, but the reason was not given, we could only assume it was from whatever yellow flag violation, that was never shown. The shown something in miniature on the right side that covered up the action, etc... There was a whole bunch of stuff.
no, everyone complained, it was truly horrific. Worst ever imho. Maybe they outsourced the production to AI, (very)low-IQ-Aliens or friends and family.
The broadcast director from that race last year where they kept showing girlfriends' close-up shots instead of track action, was better than this broadcast director. Never seen such pathetic editing. "Dreadful" is the word.

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Mercedes are in a completely different universe.
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avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 12:54
Mercedes Duel in Montreal - A thriller Until Lap 30 | 13 full onboard laps w/ radio

https://youtu.be/kns-wRGi35Y?si=1UZ6cobyJfwfq5xw
That was far far lesser quality battle than I initially thought. All overtaking looksd still horrible and mario kart. Even big mistakes made by both drivers weren't forced, all completely unforced. Russell going off track to defend the position in the final chicane lap 24. This is why he was under investigation. Not as bad as blatant as Max vs Ham in Brazil in 2021 but in essence exactly the same violation.
Looking up laptime data sheets, the ultimate winner lost around 8-10 seconds of race time during that fight with teammate, making those mistakes and switching positions. After Russell retirement he was obviously cruising whereas drivers behind pushing flatout (yes, this still happens in F1 at times). Once again our championship leader won a one- horse race, well done. ! 👏
They are both flattered by an excellent, utterly dominant car. GR is yet to demonstrate championship caliber consistency in tyre management and race pace.

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AR3-GP wrote:
25 May 2026, 18:32
https://i.postimg.cc/DfDymGK8/image.png

Mercedes are in a completely different universe.
…Than Ferrari and Red bull, we can not say the same about Mclaren yet, can we?. Would be interesting to see Merc real pace next to Norris in a normal Canadian race - the only driver-car combo that was capable of challenging them or at least come anywhere near with some extra luck, as we saw both in Miami and Canada sprint. Red bull and Ferrari have zero chance even with all the luck.
Too bad mclaren did their best to prevent Lando from defending his title, as he was the only one capable of making this season somewhat remotely exciting, providing Mclaren next updates work. After Canada he officially has no chance given the points gap. This now feels like 2014 all over again, but with lower quality drivers in Mercedes cockpits.

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avantman wrote:
25 May 2026, 19:36
AR3-GP wrote:
25 May 2026, 18:32
https://i.postimg.cc/DfDymGK8/image.png

Mercedes are in a completely different universe.
…Than Ferrari and Red bull, we can not say the same about Mclaren yet, can we?. Would be interesting to see Merc real pace next to Norris in a normal Canadian race - the only driver-car combo that was capable of challenging them or at least come anywhere near with some extra luck, as we saw both in Miami and Canada sprint. Red bull and Ferrari have zero chance even with all the luck.
Too bad mclaren did their best to prevent Lando from defending his title, as he was the only one capable of making this season somewhat remotely exciting, providing Mclaren next updates work. After Canada he officially has no chance given the points gap. This now feels like 2014 all over again, but with lower quality drivers in Mercedes cockpits.
Mclarens had no chance. At the start of the sprint, the Mercs were half a second a lap quicker than Lando while having 6 lap old mediums when Lando had new ones. :lol: The only reason he got involved in the sprint later on is because the Mercs started fighting really hard and losing time.

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Stella also said after the race that he didn't feel that Mclaren could have done much to trouble the Mercs. Mclarens would have been around where Hamilton was. On top of that, they appear to have bungled their first upgrade in a long while. This carries a high penalty with the budget cap and limited development hours. You've sunk cost and resources with no benefit. Even if they go back to the windtunnel and tweak it, they still wasted resources that they could hardly afford to since they have the smallest windtunnel and CFD allocations.

The season is a write off after 5 races. It is what it is.
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