2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones

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etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
Yeah funny how they have Canada - Monaco back to back when they're opposites as far as setups.

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diffuser wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:14
etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
Yeah funny how they have Canada - Monaco back to back when they're opposites as far as setups.
I am curious how close the Aston Martin can be to making Q3 at Monaco. That would be quite the achievement.

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FNTC wrote:
26 May 2026, 15:18
Waiting for the ADUO decision now, and how quickly they can implement them.
Instantly. They could still develop the engines, but not use them until they get the ruling.

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TyreSlip wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:20
diffuser wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:14
etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
Yeah funny how they have Canada - Monaco back to back when they're opposites as far as setups.
I am curious how close the Aston Martin can be to making Q3 at Monaco. That would be quite the achievement.
They wont even be in Q2.In F1 no miracle,Aston didnt even know what is the right setup,what is the right seat lol. Is like you except every year williams to be in Q3 in Monaco...Nonsense...

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etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
No. So In Canada apart from the straights the car was horrible in traction so they got to crank the stiffness and that eats the rear tires. 70% of the reason for their atrocious race pace was the car ate up it's rear tires very quickly. That doesn't bode well for Monaco.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Lance Stroll during the Canadian GP race:

😳 "I finished the race for the mechanics AND FOR LAWRENCE"

👉 He also said that without the front locks (box) and without the blue flags (they were freezing the tires) they could be 3s faster

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
27 May 2026, 02:29
etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
No. So In Canada apart from the straights the car was horrible in traction so they got to crank the stiffness and that eats the rear tires. 70% of the reason for their atrocious race pace was the car ate up it's rear tires very quickly. That doesn't bode well for Monaco.
Of course. But if you did a good job in one area, that strength can give you a slight advantage on tracks that reward it. For example, a Williams with very good straight-line speed might be a little better at Monza. The best will still be the best. But with Alonso's experience, there might be a chance for a Q3 in Monaco. And a few good first laps

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Orihara:
“We know where we need to improve, for example, the combustion side. We need to improve the combustion,” he said. “We know how we improve the combustion, so we have some idea to improve combustion performance, and we have seen some positive signs on the dyno data.

“Also, let’s say, for example, friction. We need to reduce friction to improve performance, so that type of list we have now in the factory, and we have to keep working on to improve those things.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/honda-chi ... ll-be-seen

If you think Aramco isn't part of this upgrade... You only need to look to history to know Honda will continue to develop the fuel with/for their fuel supplier to extract the maximum, which they aren't there yet.
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etusch wrote:
27 May 2026, 07:19
Ashwinv16 wrote:
27 May 2026, 02:29
etusch wrote:
26 May 2026, 18:12
If AM good at slow corners Monaco can be a chance. With electric power this cars can be faster than old ones
No. So In Canada apart from the straights the car was horrible in traction so they got to crank the stiffness and that eats the rear tires. 70% of the reason for their atrocious race pace was the car ate up it's rear tires very quickly. That doesn't bode well for Monaco.
Of course. But if you did a good job in one area, that strength can give you a slight advantage on tracks that reward it. For example, a Williams with very good straight-line speed might be a little better at Monza. The best will still be the best. But with Alonso's experience, there might be a chance for a Q3 in Monaco. And a few good first laps

It's hard to say, cause you don't have all the straights in Monaco, so you're free to distribute the batter/recharge power in the other sections. This is where the most of the time was lost. The AMR26s were fast in most types of slow speed corners but not all types(They weren't great in the hairpin). Were there some setup compromises they had to make in Canada that will not be applied in Monaco ? No Idea. Will there be a DNF/DNS from one of the top 8 in quali? I think Alonso is almost certain to make it into Q2. Q3 though tough call.

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Are you guys overlooking that a major time loss was low front tire grip? Small lockups they didn't get under control.

Absolutely a killer in Canada.

But the car has no data. Their mileage is probably 10% of the others.

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Waz wrote:
27 May 2026, 21:52
Are you guys overlooking that a major time loss was low front tire grip? Small lockups they didn't get under control.

Absolutely a killer in Canada.

But the car has no data. Their mileage is probably 10% of the others.

It depends on the why they had front traction problems. If they had to go stiffer than they wanted in Canada for whatever reason.

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ispano6 wrote:
27 May 2026, 16:45
Orihara:
“We know where we need to improve, for example, the combustion side. We need to improve the combustion,” he said. “We know how we improve the combustion, so we have some idea to improve combustion performance, and we have seen some positive signs on the dyno data.

“Also, let’s say, for example, friction. We need to reduce friction to improve performance, so that type of list we have now in the factory, and we have to keep working on to improve those things.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/honda-chi ... ll-be-seen

If you think Aramco isn't part of this upgrade... You only need to look to history to know Honda will continue to develop the fuel with/for their fuel supplier to extract the maximum, which they aren't there yet.
That's true, some PU manufacturers have chemical research facilities that research and develop fuels in house for use. Honda is one of them, and with Red Bull and Mobil, it was Honda who started to develop highly specialised compositions in Sakura optimised with their engine and was first raced in late 2019. By 2021 they had that real unusual blend the paddock was going on about with media outlets reporting it had weird chemicals usually found in the cosmetics industry.
They develop it, then send it to Mobil for analysis, and if Mobil agreed, they would produce it, add their other necessary components and ship it to the teams using that engine.

I would agree right now, it's highly unlikely they are at the point they can focus on fuel optimisation if they are still developing the combustion system. That needs solidifying first.

https://global.honda/en/tech/motorsport ... in_e-fuel/

Great read ^

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Alonso retired from a bad pressure point in his seat.

Could this be another sign of his age is now becoming a serious impediment to being able to drive a Newey car? Keep in mind Newey cars are known to be very extreme when it comes to packaging. Imagine the irony if the 2027 car is a rocketship and poor old Alonso gets too many aches and pains and is unable to drive it.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fernando- ... n-mistakes
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
28 May 2026, 03:04
Alonso retired from a bad pressure point in his seat.

Could this be another sign of his age is now becoming a serious impediment to being able to drive a Newey car? Keep in mind Newey cars are known to be very extreme when it comes to packaging. Imagine the irony if the 2027 car is a rocketship and poor old Alonso gets too many aches and pains and is unable to drive it.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/fernando- ... n-mistakes
Even whit the seat problems he had in Canada, if he was in points he would have finished the race.
Next year both Aston and Fernando will be better, still i see Alonso more capable than all drivers except Verstapen.
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