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It's been going on for years now. Since the announcement of the CAP. The big teams nolonger have budget to pay people more. So engineers have to go to other teams to get raises.
Thanks but is not true for Ferrari, Mclaren and Aston Martin. Aston Marting is buying big since 2019. Its 7 years now and and they are constantly growing. Even with a deficit of 200-300 personall the people than came far exceeds what they lost. Mclaren two is growing.. And Ferrari is the best example. The same budget and large staff like Red Bull and Mercedes but they are constantly gaining not losing
Well Aston Martin and Mclaren, pre CAP, weren't budgeting at the same levels as RBR, Merc, Ferrari. As for Ferarri, Cardile started at Astin Martin Last July. Ferrari were so pissed about losing him, they even took Cardile to court to exent ihis gardening leave to the Max. There are a lot others.
Thank you for your kindness that you responded and for the infos with Cardile and Ferrari. Maybe Im to worried that Ferrari is catching Mercedes that Im blaiming them for this personall changes.
another one leaving...luciano nicomede an italian engineer working for Mercedes for 6 years goes to Ferrari... can they start buying engineer to from the top teams not just losing them? Ferrari as well as Red Bull are big organisations too and were overstaffed before the budget cap at the same degree as Mercedes...
It's been pretty quiet here lately.
Less team hopping or not so much in the public domain?
I haven't been well recently so haven't been able to check as much, but have a couple to report on. Stephen Taylor (long time Lead Composite Designer) has headed over from Mercedes to Aston Martin. Robert Miller has already been reported on here too.
It's been pretty quiet here lately.
Less team hopping or not so much in the public domain?
I haven't been well recently so haven't been able to check as much, but have a couple to report on. Stephen Taylor (long time Lead Composite Designer) has headed over from Mercedes to Aston Martin. Robert Miller has already been reported on here too.
It's been pretty quiet here lately.
Less team hopping or not so much in the public domain?
I haven't been well recently so haven't been able to check as much, but have a couple to report on. Stephen Taylor (long time Lead Composite Designer) has headed over from Mercedes to Aston Martin. Robert Miller has already been reported on here too.
It's been pretty quiet here lately.
Less team hopping or not so much in the public domain?
I haven't been well recently so haven't been able to check as much, but have a couple to report on. Stephen Taylor (long time Lead Composite Designer) has headed over from Mercedes to Aston Martin. Robert Miller has already been reported on here too.
I remember one talking point when cost cap was introduced, that Mercedes and other big teams would simply be moving a lot of their staff to non-F1 projects rather than laying them off completely. Merc apparently put a lot of their people on their America's Cup sailing ship program. Could that be a possible partial explanation to why they have been losing so many personnel, that they still have a deep well of talented engineers waiting in the wings? Or has that cycle mostly run it's course at this point?
Also, seems like a ton of people going to Williams. Perhaps these people are the dregs, or perhaps within the industry Williams aren't seen as the sinking ship that many fans might suppose.
I remember one talking point when cost cap was introduced, that Mercedes and other big teams would simply be moving a lot of their staff to non-F1 projects rather than laying them off completely. Merc apparently put a lot of their people on their America's Cup sailing ship program. Could that be a possible partial explanation to why they have been losing so many personnel, that they still have a deep well of talented engineers waiting in the wings? Or has that cycle mostly run it's course at this point?
iirc, this loophole was closed 1-2 years ago. The thing is F1 engineers want to work on F1. They don't want to work on boats. So that was never a long term solution. The teams were rotating staff to these auxiliary design offices and doing part time billing debauchery to save on reported labor cost. The FIA has now made any person who so much as breathes get their full salary counted against the budget cap.
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