2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Luscion wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:35
Lewis' worse quali of the season, he was competitive in fp1 but now doesnt seem happy, complained of cold tires before the lap and said it was a completely different car in that session, after they put on the new floor. Wonder if he'll do a setup change before the sprint
The car is in parc ferme any change would cause a pit lane start. Hardly worth it, unless the car is undrivable.

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Space-heat wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 18:07
Luscion wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:35
Lewis' worse quali of the season, he was competitive in fp1 but now doesnt seem happy, complained of cold tires before the lap and said it was a completely different car in that session, after they put on the new floor. Wonder if he'll do a setup change before the sprint
The car is in parc ferme any change would cause a pit lane start. Hardly worth it, unless the car is undrivable.
Latest interview he said he believes he knows what to change but yea your right, doing a change before would be silly.

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Space-heat wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 18:07
Luscion wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:35
Lewis' worse quali of the season, he was competitive in fp1 but now doesnt seem happy, complained of cold tires before the lap and said it was a completely different car in that session, after they put on the new floor. Wonder if he'll do a setup change before the sprint
The car is in parc ferme any change would cause a pit lane start. Hardly worth it, unless the car is undrivable.
It would be sacrificing the sprint for a test session.

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Thankfully it's not huge points for the Sprint. They can test this new floor during the sprint and then adjust again for Quali and Race.
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The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough

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woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:30
The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough
Mercedes is also faster than McL in the straights though. It's not just the PU but their entire concept.
Of course, Ferrari has a terrible PU compared to MB.

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woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:46
Charles was P1 at turn 13, with a 0.2s advantage over Russell and 0.12s over Norris. But when it came to the final energy deployment, there was nothing left:

Russell at 317km/h,
Lando at 307km/h,
Charles at 302km/h…

who said Ferrari is 0,1s behind Mercedes powerwise??

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mercedes harvest more through T7 to T9 to deploy more at the end of the lap.

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Jdn1327 wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:22
This is a weird forum...when Lewis does well it's very cagey...when Charles does well he's the toast of ferrari...you know why Charles isn't a champion...he only ever tries to beat his team mate..
Thats his only accolade. 2022 was an easy ferrari wdc...but he choked. Oh well...
This is the quietest this thread has been on a race/sprint-day all season.

When Hamilton has recently seen some strong form, this thread has been lively.

You’re seemingly just … making things up. The bias and projection is breathtaking.

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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:56
woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:46
Charles was P1 at turn 13, with a 0.2s advantage over Russell and 0.12s over Norris. But when it came to the final energy deployment, there was nothing left:

Russell at 317km/h,
Lando at 307km/h,
Charles at 302km/h…

who said Ferrari is 0,1s behind Mercedes powerwise??

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mercedes harvest more through T7 to T9 to deploy more at the end of the lap.

https://i.postimg.cc/8PDvyVFM/image.png
Is the area between each comparable though? looks it to me, so the Mercedes is just that much faster over a lap.
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SiLo wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 00:27
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:56
woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 17:46
Charles was P1 at turn 13, with a 0.2s advantage over Russell and 0.12s over Norris. But when it came to the final energy deployment, there was nothing left:

Russell at 317km/h,
Lando at 307km/h,
Charles at 302km/h…

who said Ferrari is 0,1s behind Mercedes powerwise??

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Mercedes harvest more through T7 to T9 to deploy more at the end of the lap.

https://i.postimg.cc/8PDvyVFM/image.png
Is the area between each comparable though? looks it to me, so the Mercedes is just that much faster over a lap.
Certainly, Russell has done a lap that was half a tenth in front of Leclerc so they are just faster in this session. I just think the other post was misleading.
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woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:30
The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough
If it is claimed that Ferrari is "faster in the corners", then it is because they have more downforce. More downforce = more drag. Drag is energy consumption. This is an eco-Formula. There are only 2 SM zones in Zandvoort. So Ferrari waste more energy around the lap. Its not a 3-4 tenths PU deficit. We have already discussed this. They have an air restrictor on their exhaust. They have more aerodynamic energy consumption.
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Xyz22 wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:35
woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:30
The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough
Mercedes is also faster than McL in the straights though. It's not just the PU but their entire concept.
Of course, Ferrari has a terrible PU compared to MB.
Mercedes certainly has the best PU, but Ferrari is not terrible.

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AR3-GP wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 00:47
woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:30
The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough
If it is claimed that Ferrari is "faster in the corners", then it is because they have more downforce. More downforce = more drag. Drag is energy consumption. There are only 2 SM zones in Zandvoort. So Ferrari waste more energy around the lap. Its not a 3-4 tenths PU deficit. We have already discussed this. They have an air restrictor on their exhaust. They have more aerodynamic energy consumption.
Not an aero expert, but AFAIK it's important how they generate the DF, if they have more (comparing to others) from the floor then it's more efficient.
Don't get me wrong, I do not want to say that You are not right.
Also even with the new ICE FER shall be down on power about 20-25HP if assessments are right.
For Monza I expect they'll abandon the air restrictor on the exhaust (for that race only).
However I don't expect miracles in Monza, just limiting the damage, if MERC and McL have regular/excellent race 5th/6th are realistic, with having in mind that Max can be strong also.
I think that the team at least for now has excellent developing path, I hope they'll preserve it, coming with the PU more on pair with MERC and FORD for the next year.
Loic Serra is TOTL expert for vehicle dynamics and I think that the results from his work are yet to come.
Team must stay focus and work hard and we'll be easily in the fight for the WDC next season.
Since there is a strong positive trend, I am satisfied with the work by the team until now, hoping they'll continue in the same manner.
PS Who am I to be satisfied with their work!!! I am saying just like an 40 years long FER fan, before that Alfa Romeo :)

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| Fred Vasseur: “I don’t really believe in driving style, but rather in what a driver likes and needs to be fast, and if we look at Lewis and Charles, it seems they have quite different preferences in terms of driving.”
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AR3-GP wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 01:14
Xyz22 wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:35
woocasz wrote:
21 Aug 2026, 23:30
The gap between the Ferraris and the Mercedes can be attributed to the straights: there is a difference of 0,3s to 0,4s between the SF-26 and the W-17 on the straights.


Monza cant come soon enough
Mercedes is also faster than McL in the straights though. It's not just the PU but their entire concept.
Of course, Ferrari has a terrible PU compared to MB.
Mercedes certainly has the best PU, but Ferrari is not terrible.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQRForxWQAA ... =4096x4096
Ferrari is over 4% worse than MB in terms of pure ICE power, which makes its PU terrible in comparison.