2026 Aston Martin Aramco Formula One Team

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Jambier
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Chassis upgrade was clear.

Engine update is not. Barely no progress for now

They can’t do anything if they lose 1+s with the engine even develop the chassis.

So let’s hope for some miracle for 2027…

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KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:41
diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:37
KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:31
Turn 13 acceleration to main straight is atrocious.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWEOXoWYAA ... name=large
Agreed, it's a setup or suspension thing though, not the PU.
Highly disagree. Please have a look at telemetry. Where do you see mechanical grip being bad?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWDxnUW4AA ... name=large
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was talking about Sector 3, so from Turn 12 onwards. Obviously, there is a power deficit compared with the best ICE, so maybe I should have said it wasn’t just about power.

I was also thinking about the cars Alonso was trying to pass in the Sprint race, not the Racing Bulls. Even there, if you look at the throttle chart, you can see that Alonso is later and less aggressive on the throttle out of Turns 12 and 13. That’s because he lacks traction. So he starts off behind, gets on the throttle later, and is less aggressive, which means it’s normal for him to fall further behind initially, before the extra power later takes over.

Think about it: they have less power, but they’re also later and less aggressive on the throttle.

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KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:41
diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:37
KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:31
Turn 13 acceleration to main straight is atrocious.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWEOXoWYAA ... name=large
Agreed, it's a setup or suspension thing though, not the PU.
Highly disagree. Please have a look at telemetry. Where do you see mechanical grip being bad?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWDxnUW4AA ... name=large
Lacking horsepower on all the straights, and on the last one they have no deplyment left. Hopefully the rumours about Honda only running 15 out of the 30 extra hp is true.

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diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 21:34
Think about it: they have less power, but they’re also later and less aggressive on the throttle.
You mentioned the high winds during the sprint, but it was the same conditions for everyone. Unlike in Hungary when the car still had some understeer, the updated car with new front wing/floor now shows characteristics of unpredictable oversteer. The inconsistent downshifts and throttle response from the engine software is also not helping matters.

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Gasly with the merc engine vs alonso:
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Losing half a second on the final full throttle run towards the line.

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Honestly? we dont know what they are doing, but, the first impresions arent not good. Honda really looks like improve nothing.

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KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:41
diffuser wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:37
KimiRai wrote:
22 Aug 2026, 20:31
Turn 13 acceleration to main straight is atrocious.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWEOXoWYAA ... name=large
Agreed, it's a setup or suspension thing though, not the PU.
Highly disagree. Please have a look at telemetry. Where do you see mechanical grip being bad?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/HQWDxnUW4AA ... name=large
Graph shows Ice is much weaker than RB engine and poor traction/confidence out of slower corners.
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Engine was 90HP down, if it is now 75 obviously it is still atrocious

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In the Youtube post qualy interviews Alonso was positive talking about much closer to pole than earlier in the season, while Lance complained about driveability again.

From transcript on YT, Alonso:
I think at the end of the day, we maximize what we had. I think the trajectory of of the team and the performance is is encouraging. You know, we've been 4 seconds and a half a few races ago and now we are 1.3 to Pastry in Q1. So you know all the steps were you know in the right direction but um now we have the difficult part you know the last 1.5 seconds you know to to recover and that's uh what it will take time for us.
Stroll:
Still struggling with drivability issues and power. So those are the main things.
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De La Rosa; "focused on improving the engine's drivability and reducing weight over the next two Grands Prix, as we're still not at the minimum weight".
I think there are still 2–5 tenths of relatively easy performance to gain over the next few GPs.

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To be honest, I was hoping for us to be P10 to P12 here. P18 is nowhere close.

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Well actual race is not done. Thats where the points are at. Lets c how thty go.

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Tell me one thing, I think you cannot deploy more that 11.5 MJ (7.5MJ max recharge during lap + 4 MJ full battery that you begin lap with) during quali lap using battery any car.

But ICE can deliver more power as much as it can like using quali map? if AMR is able to deploy 11 MJ then ICE must be the differentiator when compared to other midfield teams at least in quali.