2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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jumpingfish wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:29
Is there a list of things that have actually improved since Hamilton joined the team?
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How about this for starters, Charles is now using CI brakes because he couldn’t figure out the Brembo’s for years now, only after Lewis forced Ferrari’s hand to make the switch….can go one for days, but it wouldn’t matter with this crowd….facts are, Charles has had his chance for many many many years now to make Ferrari his team, and if he would have Elkann wouldn’t have gone out and signed Lewis. It’s just the facts. Charles isn’t a world champion driver, very good driver, but there is a difference. Ferrari politics and real lack of leadership big big reason they just can’t get over the hump.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:57
Dee wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:54
PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:21



Lewis is a 7XWDC team builder that's what they hired him for and he is delivering. It's up to Charles to learn how a champion operates and apply that to take the team builing over from Lewis, but it seems he has other more short-sighted plans.

Since 2022 Charles has been the major points scorer for Ferrari. He will score more points for Ferrari this year than Lewis did for the entirety of 2025 and people seem to think he needs to roll over for the rest of this year...
No, he needs to stop thinking his team mate is the only driver with whom he is racing. As long as he only worries about his team mate, he will never win a title.
Stop making sense, we don’t do that in this thread, especially against Charles

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Oh come on, is Charles fault now that Ferrari hasn't got a championship the last year's? Also we need to raise a Statue in Maranelo with Lewis because he brought what worked for him in MB?

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Regarding the pit stop during the VSC. Was there a reason they did not try it? Did they not have a new hard or a new medium?

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Weachter78! wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:41
jumpingfish wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:29
Is there a list of things that have actually improved since Hamilton joined the team?


How about this for starters, Charles is now using CI brakes because he couldn’t figure out the Brembo’s for years now, only after Lewis forced Ferrari’s hand to make the switch….can go one for days, but it wouldn’t matter with this crowd….facts are, Charles has had his chance for many many many years now to make Ferrari his team, and if he would have Elkann wouldn’t have gone out and signed Lewis. It’s just the facts. Charles isn’t a world champion driver, very good driver, but there is a difference. Ferrari politics and real lack of leadership big big reason they just can’t get over the hump.
Then why they renewed Leclerc's contract? It doesn't make any sense. Leclerc should have left Ferrari after 2025.

Also, Hamilton is a whopping 76 points behind Antonelli. He finished ahead of him only twice, when Antonelli DNFed. As i said, only his cleueless fans created the narrative of a championship fight. There is no fight and Ferrari will finish P3 in the WCC behind McLaren, with Hamilton finishing behind Norris in the WDC.

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proteus wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 21:53
venkyhere wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 21:34
The fuse has been lit :
La miccia è stata accesa :

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/here ... rrari-out/

Let me fetch the popcorn before the dynamite explodes :D

(on 2nd thought, I would say Elkaan brought in the dynamite, rigged the building with it, laid out all the wiring, and simply has been waiting for this moment, I think. Getting rid of Sainz is the worst decision this team has made since 'fuel flow gate', IMHO)
The biggest problem of Lewis is that he thinks he alone is the team. Now the question is if Ferrari will play his little game like Toto did in Mercedes, or if they wont.

Charles is a product of Ferrari - literally. And to push him down for a possible glory run of an aged driver in his quest for the 8th championship is atleast disrespectful to say the least. Aparently Charles is not going out without a fight and he is absolutely right. Should he really be at the sidelines so Lewis can get his shot? I personally dont think so.
Didn't Lewis volunteer to let Charles through in China last year? You either forgot or you're lying.

Leclerc can fight all he wants but he should be careful...a few more crashes and he'll get the Vettel treatment.

And he's not that good if he has to be on the edge to be fast. He's strikes me as a better version of Maldonado and if woo is him if next year's car happens to suit Hamilton.

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Xyz22 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:47
Weachter78! wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:41
jumpingfish wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:29
Is there a list of things that have actually improved since Hamilton joined the team?

How about this for starters, Charles is now using CI brakes because he couldn’t figure out the Brembo’s for years now, only after Lewis forced Ferrari’s hand to make the switch….can go one for days, but it wouldn’t matter with this crowd….facts are, Charles has had his chance for many many many years now to make Ferrari his team, and if he would have Elkann wouldn’t have gone out and signed Lewis. It’s just the facts. Charles isn’t a world champion driver, very good driver, but there is a difference. Ferrari politics and real lack of leadership big big reason they just can’t get over the hump.
Then why they renewed Leclerc's contract? It doesn't make any sense. Leclerc should have left Ferrari after 2025.

Also, Hamilton is a whopping 76 points behind Antonelli. He finished ahead of him only twice, when Antonelli DNFed. As i said, only his cleueless fans created the narrative of a championship fight. There is no fight and Ferrari will finish P3 in the WCC behind McLaren, with Hamilton finishing behind Norris in the WDC.
41 year old Hamilton is 36 points ahead of the a prime Leclerc who was thought to be second best in F1 in only his second year with the team. You'd have to be on crack to have predicted this last year and yet you pretend Leclerc has been top-notch.

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rifrafs2kees wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 23:43
Xyz22 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:47
Weachter78! wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:41



How about this for starters, Charles is now using CI brakes because he couldn’t figure out the Brembo’s for years now, only after Lewis forced Ferrari’s hand to make the switch….can go one for days, but it wouldn’t matter with this crowd….facts are, Charles has had his chance for many many many years now to make Ferrari his team, and if he would have Elkann wouldn’t have gone out and signed Lewis. It’s just the facts. Charles isn’t a world champion driver, very good driver, but there is a difference. Ferrari politics and real lack of leadership big big reason they just can’t get over the hump.
Then why they renewed Leclerc's contract? It doesn't make any sense. Leclerc should have left Ferrari after 2025.

Also, Hamilton is a whopping 76 points behind Antonelli. He finished ahead of him only twice, when Antonelli DNFed. As i said, only his cleueless fans created the narrative of a championship fight. There is no fight and Ferrari will finish P3 in the WCC behind McLaren, with Hamilton finishing behind Norris in the WDC.
41 year old Hamilton is 36 points ahead of the a prime Leclerc who was thought to be second best in F1 in only his second year with the team. You'd have to be on crack to have predicted this last year and yet you pretend Leclerc has been top-notch.
Did you miss my last few posts? I literally said that Ferrari should have “fired” Leclerc. He has been terrible this season.

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Weachter78! wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 22:41
jumpingfish wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:29
Is there a list of things that have actually improved since Hamilton joined the team?

How about this for starters, Charles is now using CI brakes because he couldn’t figure out the Brembo’s for years now, only after Lewis forced Ferrari’s hand to make the switch….can go one for days, but it wouldn’t matter with this crowd….facts are, Charles has had his chance for many many many years now to make Ferrari his team, and if he would have Elkann wouldn’t have gone out and signed Lewis. It’s just the facts. Charles isn’t a world champion driver, very good driver, but there is a difference. Ferrari politics and real lack of leadership big big reason they just can’t get over the hump.
They are using CI brakes because the engineer that designed for Lewis is now designing for Ferrari and they are integrated into a new aero upgrade. Do you not remember that the Brembo brakes were working fine until the new upgrade came on board a few races into the season and the car wouldnt work with them on after it?..

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The level of leadership at Ferrari by the way:



Comparing Lewis Hamilton to 0x WDC Oscar Piastri and calling it a "good comparison". :lol:
Working on the balance.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:21
f1316 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 18:35
Xyz22 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 17:43
This is the result of a team managed by literal clowns.
If you want to bet on Hamilton just hire a pure second driver like Bottas or whatever. Leclerc should have been fired immediately. Leclerc Hamilton is the worst driver pair in the entire grid.
It’s an interesting point - you could argue that, if they were going to sign Hamilton, it would have made more sense to keep Sainz as his partner - still very fast and good but more likely to slot in behind on pure performance.

But my argument would be not to have signed Lewis at all - if they had got him 10 years earlier, great, but at this stage you needed to leave the team alone unless you could get Max. They now need to think about if they can get Kimi after he wins a couple of championships with Mercedes and built the team around him. No point getting these guys after they’ve peaked.
Lewis is a 7XWDC team builder that's what they hired him for and he is delivering. It's up to Charles to learn how a champion operates and apply that to take the team builing over from Lewis, but it seems he has other more short-sighted plans.
Is he really delivering? I think that’s at best debatable. I don’t think I can think of one occasion when he’s really “outperformed” the car (in the type of way Max has multiple times this season) - after a very poor first season - and he’s hardly galvanising the team around him - he seems a bit divisive if anything; Schumacher would never have come out publicly with negative comments, for example.

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bluechris wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 19:46
GrizzleBoy wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 18:23
bluechris wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 18:14

He could simply lift a bit in 2nd corner and he would had been fine keeping his place in 1st lap at least. He is not 18 years old and from all the grid he is a 7 time world champion and knows this better than any of us here. If he was faster he could had pass or team orders would had come. I see excuses constantly.
He did pass lol.

Contrary to what Crofty and Brundle immediately and incorrectly stated,.Nico Rosberg just put them in their place and explained that the rule state that once you are in his position, the inside car does not have the right to take you off the track.

Lewis made a clean pass, did not crowd Charles off the track, and simply expected his team mate to follow the rules and not put him in the gravel.

I dont think theres anything more to it. Charles already called it an error. He knows he shouldn't have put Lewis in the gravel.

I doubt anyone at Ferrari is more mad at Lewis that he tried to make (and did make) a clean pass, than they are at Charles for effectively ruining the race for their entire team with two seperate errors.

That said, I wouldnt be surprised if Lewis being left out to dry on tyres that already werent working long before the VSC, could be because they mayne blame him for all of the T1 events. Doesn't make sense, but I cant explain what other possible reason there would be for keeping your driver on a one stop with dead tyres when you have the opportunity to get fresh rubber handed to you on a plate.
Well the Stewart's disagree with you here.
The stewards are inept, so them disagreeing means next to nothing.
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f1316 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 23:58
PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:21
f1316 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 18:35


It’s an interesting point - you could argue that, if they were going to sign Hamilton, it would have made more sense to keep Sainz as his partner - still very fast and good but more likely to slot in behind on pure performance.

But my argument would be not to have signed Lewis at all - if they had got him 10 years earlier, great, but at this stage you needed to leave the team alone unless you could get Max. They now need to think about if they can get Kimi after he wins a couple of championships with Mercedes and built the team around him. No point getting these guys after they’ve peaked.
Lewis is a 7XWDC team builder that's what they hired him for and he is delivering. It's up to Charles to learn how a champion operates and apply that to take the team builing over from Lewis, but it seems he has other more short-sighted plans.
Is he really delivering? I think that’s at best debatable. I don’t think I can think of one occasion when he’s really “outperformed” the car (in the type of way Max has multiple times this season) - after a very poor first season - and he’s hardly galvanising the team around him - he seems a bit divisive if anything; Schumacher would never have come out publicly with negative comments, for example.
Because Shumi got his number 1 status written in ink for a long time. He would be tearing into Ferrari he were in Hamilton's current position.
Would you get a backbone, self respect and some sincerity? Hamilton's statement is not even a quarter as harsh as what Max has dished out to Red Bull, who serve at his every whim.

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rifrafs2kees wrote:
07 Sep 2026, 00:09
f1316 wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 23:58
PlatinumZealot wrote:
06 Sep 2026, 20:21


Lewis is a 7XWDC team builder that's what they hired him for and he is delivering. It's up to Charles to learn how a champion operates and apply that to take the team builing over from Lewis, but it seems he has other more short-sighted plans.
Is he really delivering? I think that’s at best debatable. I don’t think I can think of one occasion when he’s really “outperformed” the car (in the type of way Max has multiple times this season) - after a very poor first season - and he’s hardly galvanising the team around him - he seems a bit divisive if anything; Schumacher would never have come out publicly with negative comments, for example.
Because Shumi got his number 1 status written in ink for a long time. He would be tearing into Ferrari he were in Hamilton's current position.
Would you get a backbone, self respect and some sincerity? Hamilton's statement is not even a quarter as harsh as what Max has dished out to Red Bull, who serve at his every whim.
Schumacher, unlike Hamilton, was quick.

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What are you talking about mate? Have you missed the whole of Hamilton's career and every single race in the rain where he left everyone one minute behind? Have you missed the fact that he beat 3 different world champions as teammates and a dozen on the same grid including Max Verstappen when he was 36 and past his prime in 2021? His career is not that different from Schumacher. In fact many have Hamilton as the modern era Schumacher.