Ah I see you like to break it down into 5 little mini arguments. Sigh. What are you, Kilcoo in disguise?
I'll play your way, then I will write a real response at the bottom, about Alonso, not about nit picking posts apart.
It also appears you think that I consider Alonso the very best. I am not privy to any info to know that for sure. But to say he is not
one of the best is denial at it's very best. I have been reading articles about F1 since the 80's with gusto, and an almost insatiable desire for more. Over all this time, when Alonso showed up, he has grown to be a great driver in front of millions of people in the sport and at home. Where the hell were you?
segedunum wrote:Giblet wrote:You want your logic to be based in results?
Errrrrr, yes.....including the last two seasons.
That he won races while his teammates skated off track, and rarelly if ever qualified as high up as he did. Schumi should have been canned when he became such a --- drive in 2005 and 2006. They shoukld have binned him. He is rubbish. Oh his car and tires weren't good.....? OH REALLY?!.
Well then that is easy... the opinion of those who have worked with him in F1...
As said, opinions are two a penny, and the same opinions you quote for Alonso that you think that proves his skills in this area are better than others can be wheeled out for at least two other drivers. You have nothing that proves anything I'm afraid. That is
all you are basing this on....whatever 'this' happens to be.
Find me ONE quote about Alonso not being one of the best setup people. JUST one. You can't, because the truth is out there. I can continue to find quotes all day to the contrary of your stance.
A result of that skill and opinion, is his choice of drives in just about any team, as the clear number 1, for a large salary, and he has got the dream drive he has always wanted.
Yep, just like McLaren was his dream drive....... Domenicali's comments about what he fears might follow next season don't paint a picture of much of a dream. Just ask Fisi.
What does that have to do with the fact he got has his choice of drives, and has had them since his 2005 title drive. Your lame attempt at quoting Domenicali has nothing to do with this discussion. A more useful quote would be from his engineers who said "We can't wait to start working with Alonso". That's probably because if his pleasant accent and giant eyebrows, I am sure it has nothing to do with them wanting his input on the car 
He's already done it, proven himself, to the world of Formula 1, and is already reaping the rewards.
Nice soundbite, but so have other drivers and he still needs to keep proving himself (as they all do), particularly after 2007.
You're wandering off on an Alonso love-in now though......which is all this thread has turned into.
So calling it a love in will somehow help your argument? I could have a giant picture on my wall of Alonso over my bed, but that would change the fact that he is a really good setup/technical/development driver.
Once you start attacking the poster and the way I post, you can tell you have nothing to go on.
Again, still waiting on one quote, or anything outside of your conjecture and opinion about weaknesses in Alonso's ability to develop a car.
I understand what ISLAMATRON is saying, even if I don't agree. I have no idea where you are headed, as you don't have a point other than the whole of F1 is wrong, or I need to quote EVERYONE in F1 to convince you.
I respect what he says, just not always how he says it. He wants nothing but results in the score sheet, and that is where we disagree.
-----------------This is what I had typed before i realized it is pointless to argue someone who just argues whatever is posted, and not the facts.
Alonso never said Mclaren was his dream team, you just said that. Where did you get that info from? Made it up?
But he has said, more than once, before and after signing with Ferrari, that his dream was to one day drive for the prancing horse. All he said about Mclaren was he likes how they develop the car.
The quotes I did find were just a few, I figure that you would be smart enough to figure that it was not just the opinion of the couple of quotes I have found. I have yet to find a quote from anyone but you or ISLAMATRON about Alonso being anything but rated very highly in the areas of technical ability I said.
You have offered nothing to the contrary, just the kind of moronic argument anyone in denial would give.
I could go find one quote about why Schumi was so devastatingly quick in the cockpit, and you would want more quotes.
I am not in love with Alonso, but I can see a good technical driver unlike you.
Seriously, you can be more wrong, but why bother trying. Offer a fact about his ability. Just one, and you might have leg to stand on.
I have done more then enough to start to prove what everyone in F1 thinks about Alonso.
You can tell me I have not done enough, but you continue to do nothing.
