Move over 599H, here comes the 599 GTO:
No details yet though.
The trouble is Ferrari are not doing hybrid well at all and I have studied all their patents to be sure.donskar wrote:Seems Ferrari is always under the microscope, thus they've gotten a lot of comments (and a lot of negative ones) about their hybrid.
Look closely in the enthusiast press -- you'll see a lot of high end manufacturers showing off hybrids -- it's the au current thing to do. And the combo of ICE and electric motor can provide more MPG AND more TPM (thrills per mile) if done well.
You're exactly right, but you're missing the irony: it's all phony. Ferrari only cares about appearing to be environmentally conscious, because their clientele only cares about appearances. It's all a PR/brand building exercise -- and no one does it better than Ferrari.autogyro wrote:The trouble is Ferrari are not doing hybrid well at all and I have studied all their patents to be sure.donskar wrote:Seems Ferrari is always under the microscope, thus they've gotten a lot of comments (and a lot of negative ones) about their hybrid.
Look closely in the enthusiast press -- you'll see a lot of high end manufacturers showing off hybrids -- it's the au current thing to do. And the combo of ICE and electric motor can provide more MPG AND more TPM (thrills per mile) if done well.
They are simply using the hybrid image to justify the use of cars using huge amounts of petrol by conning the rural CO2 regulations.
They are being forced to add hybrid to their entire range because of regulations.
Unfortunately all they can do at present is to add on electric components with countless extra gears and heavy torque multipliers and control systems, completely the wrong way to go.
What I know so far:mx_tifosi wrote:Move over 599H, here comes the 599 GTO:
No details yet though.
Did you forget your meds again?autogyro wrote:BRRM BRRM I must have one.
It will be great driving up the culda sac I live in at 20mph just like most Ferrari owners drive their cars like, knowing I am burning ten times more in fuel than the dustkart emptying my dustbins. Thats gonna be great for annoying all the 'green' responsible poor people.
Of course there will be some buying them to break the law on public roads but most of them will end up in a pile of fiberglass so no worries there then.
Just think, little piles of 'green' fiberglass.
Didnt Montezemola realise the 'red' colour was to hide the blood?
Strange he did not with the Aztec name he has.
Cynicism should be used responsibly and in moderation.autogyro wrote:BRRM BRRM I must have one.
It will be great driving up the culda sac I live in at 20mph just like most Ferrari owners drive their cars like, knowing I am burning ten times more in fuel than the dustkart emptying my dustbins. Thats gonna be great for annoying all the 'green' responsible poor people.
Of course there will be some buying them to break the law on public roads but most of them will end up in a pile of fiberglass so no worries there then.
Just think, little piles of 'green' fiberglass.
Didnt Montezemola realise the 'red' colour was to hide the blood?
Strange he did not with the Aztec name he has.
A question autogyro, would you mind sharing where you found the patents? I would like to have browse of them myself.autogyro wrote:The trouble is Ferrari are not doing hybrid well at all and I have studied all their patents to be sure.donskar wrote:Seems Ferrari is always under the microscope, thus they've gotten a lot of comments (and a lot of negative ones) about their hybrid.
Look closely in the enthusiast press -- you'll see a lot of high end manufacturers showing off hybrids -- it's the au current thing to do. And the combo of ICE and electric motor can provide more MPG AND more TPM (thrills per mile) if done well.
They are simply using the hybrid image to justify the use of cars using huge amounts of petrol by conning the rural CO2 regulations.
They are being forced to add hybrid to their entire range because of regulations.
Unfortunately all they can do at present is to add on electric components with countless extra gears and heavy torque multipliers and control systems, completely the wrong way to go.
Cynicism? I can do that as well, however all I was doing was giving the true state of play. Dont get me wrong, I love Ferrari and the 'art' that goes with it, I have driven their cars on many occasions and it is an experience not to be missed. I am trying to help in actual fact. I believe absolutely that there is a limited future for road cars like Ferrari unless they rid themselves of the gas guzzling image and make huge changes to the technical base. It is a massive challenge to everyone in this industry.mx_tifosi wrote:Cynicism should be used responsibly and in moderation.autogyro wrote:BRRM BRRM I must have one.
It will be great driving up the culda sac I live in at 20mph just like most Ferrari owners drive their cars like, knowing I am burning ten times more in fuel than the dustkart emptying my dustbins. Thats gonna be great for annoying all the 'green' responsible poor people.
Of course there will be some buying them to break the law on public roads but most of them will end up in a pile of fiberglass so no worries there then.
Just think, little piles of 'green' fiberglass.
Didnt Montezemola realise the 'red' colour was to hide the blood?
Strange he did not with the Aztec name he has.