I would guess he is on a wet-biased set-upsegedunum wrote:What I'd like to know is, what the hell happened to Alonso? He just doesn't seem to be able to pull laps out of the bag right now, almost as if he's getting carried away with trying too hard.
It doesn't really matter. I doubt I would gamble on being tenth on the grid on the off-chance that there will be a significant amount of rain, and given how much slower he was that must be what he and Ferrari are gambling on. A very strange decision, if true.vall wrote:I would guess he is on a wet-biased set-up
According to Ted the McLaren is visibly running more wing, so I don't think it's as simple as that.vall wrote:I would guess he is on a wet-biased set-upsegedunum wrote:What I'd like to know is, what the hell happened to Alonso? He just doesn't seem to be able to pull laps out of the bag right now, almost as if he's getting carried away with trying too hard.
Perhaps so, but Vettel being 3.4 km/h faster than Rosberg, who has 30 Hp more according to Marko, is not that bad?Scotracer wrote:Speed trap is at the top of Radillon, not at the end of the straight! If you want peak straight speeds, look at the speeds over the S1 timing beam.
I'm actually going to call it the other way and say that Alonso went with a setup too biased towards dry running. He had visibly less wing than the McLarens, according to Ted on the BBC, and thus was able to carry less apex speed through the corners leading and had worse traction, leading to the lower speeds through the speed trap at Radillon.zeph wrote:Top speeds qualifying:
1 Felipe Massa 312.9
2 Sebastian Vettel 307.8
3 Jenson Button 307.4
4 Lewis Hamilton 307.3
5 Robert Kubica 307.0
6 Mark Webber 306.2
7 Jaime Alguersuari 305.5
8 Adrian Sutil 304.9
9 Nico Rosberg 304.4
10 Kamui Kobayashi 304.1
11 Heikki Kovalainen 303.9
12 Sebastien Buemi 303.6
13 Fernando Alonso 303.5
No way that Alonso is nearly 10km/h slower than Massa. I reckon this substantiates the wet-biased set-up claim.
look at the last lap times! How in hell could LH set such a time in wet? There were a few drops at the beginning of the lap. That was it.myurr wrote:I'm actually going to call it the other way and say that Alonso went with a setup too biased towards dry running. He had visibly less wing than the McLarens, according to Ted on the BBC, and thus was able to carry less apex speed through the corners leading and had worse traction, leading to the lower speeds through the speed trap at Radillon.zeph wrote:Top speeds qualifying:
1 Felipe Massa 312.9
2 Sebastian Vettel 307.8
3 Jenson Button 307.4
4 Lewis Hamilton 307.3
5 Robert Kubica 307.0
6 Mark Webber 306.2
7 Jaime Alguersuari 305.5
8 Adrian Sutil 304.9
9 Nico Rosberg 304.4
10 Kamui Kobayashi 304.1
11 Heikki Kovalainen 303.9
12 Sebastien Buemi 303.6
13 Fernando Alonso 303.5
No way that Alonso is nearly 10km/h slower than Massa. I reckon this substantiates the wet-biased set-up claim.
Given that the last runs were in partially wet conditions, Alonso would have benefitted from a wet setup and not lost out.
It was enough to cost him 3 tenths of a second in sector one over his best Q2 time, so possibly up to half a second compared to where his ultimate Q3 pace would be. I believe Vettel lost a similar amount of time.vall wrote:look at the last lap times! How in hell could LH set such a time in wet? There were a few drops at the beginning of the lap. That was it.
Alonso Q2:1:47.544myurr wrote: If Alonso is running a wet set up biased enough to make him qualify in P10 why is he running less rear wing than the McLaren, and why did he do worse than he did in Q2 when it was bone dry?