Fernando Alonso has won his first ever GP for Ferrari in front of their home fans, the tifosi. After starting from pole, he chased Button to retake first place after the pitstops. Button came home second with the second Ferrari finished in third place.
Nearly kill a mechanic for $20,000 or manipulate a race for $100,000. How's that work!ESPImperium wrote:HRT fined $20,000 for a breach of the regulations: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-40.pdf
Rumor had it that there was a guest that wandered out in to the pit lane, but there are other rumors that it was an engineer that was leaning into the cockpit to change some settings and Sakon drove off with him sill adjusting something.
One's an accident, the other is on purpose. Accidents should not be treated as harshly as cheating. Accidents are expected in racing, they are an unfortunate and unavoidable side effect.andrew wrote:Nearly kill a mechanic for $20,000 or manipulate a race for $100,000. How's that work!ESPImperium wrote:HRT fined $20,000 for a breach of the regulations: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-40.pdf
Rumor had it that there was a guest that wandered out in to the pit lane, but there are other rumors that it was an engineer that was leaning into the cockpit to change some settings and Sakon drove off with him sill adjusting something.
True. I'm still going on the basis that it was a procedural frock-up by the team that could have been avoided.Giblet wrote:One's an accident, the other is on purpose. Accidents should not be treated as harshly as cheating. Accidents are expected in racing, they are an unfortunate and unavoidable side effect.andrew wrote:Nearly kill a mechanic for $20,000 or manipulate a race for $100,000. How's that work!ESPImperium wrote:HRT fined $20,000 for a breach of the regulations: http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1 ... ent-40.pdf
Rumor had it that there was a guest that wandered out in to the pit lane, but there are other rumors that it was an engineer that was leaning into the cockpit to change some settings and Sakon drove off with him sill adjusting something.
Cheating is 100% avoidable.
Aggreed, and this is where i belive that there should be a rule where teams that have been in the sport less than 2 years be able to avoid the homologation rules and be allowed to run a new car for the next year and be able to not score any points in the last 6 races, meaning they would be effectivly running un-classified that weekend.Giblet wrote:HRT is new, but considering they are not racing anyone this year, really they should be using this time to work on procedures and practice and get everything into place for next year. Assuming that is, they are on the grid next year.
I simply cant understand how the stewards refused to look at this!!! Even the Beeb boys said the 3rd time was completely blatant and penalty worthy and that block he put on Webber after rejoining was bloody dangerous!! [-Xzgred wrote:
I guess this is "One chicane too far.."
But there is no penalty as Webber's Team Radio reported.
Why would Toyota want/need to buy HRT,ESPImperium wrote:Also true.
As i see HRT being there in 2011, but i see them being bought over by an old name in F1 that has quit recently. That name, Toyota. I can see Toyota buy over HRT for 2012 so they can run it in 2012 with a lean ammount of staff with a proper race philosiphy and not the Toyota way.
Thats my personal view as i feel that Tokyo want to go racing in F1 again.
However i can see the HRT team being bought over by Epsilon, if the price is right.
Webber passed at least 2 cars, Shumi and Hulk and I personally found the race riveting!komninosm wrote: I think all F1 fans will be seething after such a boring race [except fanboys]. I think only Webber made a pass in the entire race [from front-runners].
May not make sence, but to get the 13th tender tyey would have to go thru a whole tender process. Buying HRT would mean that process would be skipped, meaning garenteed entry. Make sence now??? Thats my logic anyways.747heavy wrote:Why would Toyota want/need to buy HRT,ESPImperium wrote:Also true.
As i see HRT being there in 2011, but i see them being bought over by an old name in F1 that has quit recently. That name, Toyota. I can see Toyota buy over HRT for 2012 so they can run it in 2012 with a lean ammount of staff with a proper race philosiphy and not the Toyota way.
Thats my personal view as i feel that Tokyo want to go racing in F1 again.
However i can see the HRT team being bought over by Epsilon, if the price is right.
when there is still a 13th grid slot available via the FIA - sorry that does not makes sense to me
it´s a valid point ESPESPImperium wrote:747heavy wrote:Why would Toyota want/need to buy HRT,ESPImperium wrote:Also true.
As i see HRT being there in 2011, but i see them being bought over by an old name in F1 that has quit recently. That name, Toyota. I can see Toyota buy over HRT for 2012 so they can run it in 2012 with a lean ammount of staff with a proper race philosiphy and not the Toyota way.
Thats my personal view as i feel that Tokyo want to go racing in F1 again.
However i can see the HRT team being bought over by Epsilon, if the price is right.
when there is still a 13th grid slot available via the FIA - sorry that does not makes sense to me
May not make sence, but to get the 13th tender tyey would have to go thru a whole tender process. Buying HRT would mean that process would be skipped, meaning garenteed entry. Make sence now??? Thats my logic anyways.
LMAO good job Andrew, some Ferrari fans are just too bitter and have gone crazy conspiracy mode. =D>andrew wrote:So explain the wild strategy that Red Bull gave Vettel that helped him to 4th place?ecapox wrote:"I have a problem wth my engine. I have a problem with my engine." = "I'm gonna slow down and let mark past me."
You hypocrites who lambasted Ferrari need to do the same to redbull. Actually they should be penalized also 100k and brought in front of the wmsc. Most of You that complained about Ferrari were redbull fans as well. How does it now feel that your team "broke the rules" just like Ferrari? Cheaters. Cheaters. The fia is in cahoots with rbr. They just want Webber to win.
See, doesn't that sound stupid? If Ferrari had done thus we would have seen 30+ pages of you haters crying foul.
There is no conspirocy to answer here as one does not exist in this instance.
komninosm wrote:LMAO good job Andrew, some Ferrari fans are just too bitter and have gone crazy conspiracy mode. =D>andrew wrote:So explain the wild strategy that Red Bull gave Vettel that helped him to 4th place?ecapox wrote:"I have a problem wth my engine. I have a problem with my engine." = "I'm gonna slow down and let mark past me."
You hypocrites who lambasted Ferrari need to do the same to redbull. Actually they should be penalized also 100k and brought in front of the wmsc. Most of You that complained about Ferrari were redbull fans as well. How does it now feel that your team "broke the rules" just like Ferrari? Cheaters. Cheaters. The fia is in cahoots with rbr. They just want Webber to win.
See, doesn't that sound stupid? If Ferrari had done thus we would have seen 30+ pages of you haters crying foul.
There is no conspirocy to answer here as one does not exist in this instance.
