HRT F111 Cosworth

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the rear zone is also different

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dice782
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Maybe they have a sponsor hence the new paint job.The chequerd pattern is the best part of the new livary.

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Does the second cover mean that they are being sponsored by BAT? :mrgreen:

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JGomezH wrote:the rear zone is also different
Oh, you're right. I didn't pay enough attention.

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Good luck to HRT again!! They have shown they can qualify, but it will be a while before it's easy. They are not within 107% if a frontrunner puts in a serious Q1 lap. I assume all their practice sessions will be 100% focused on qualy setup and speed.

There is scuttlebutt about HRT selling its soul to the devil in exchange for survival money. This means committing to Bernie long-term in exchange for more Bernie money up front. Williams did this a few years ago and the resulting Bernie committment was why Williams had to side with Bernie/FIA over FOTA in the threatened breakaway series. Having said that, Williams is still around and they are more independent than most teams. Perhaps the devil is a reasonable businessman??

Link and excerpt--

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/04/ ... ing-in-kl/

"There has been a certain amount of speculation about the Hispania Racing Team doing a financial deal with the Formula One group for a pile of money each year as Bernie Ecclestone continues to try to split up the alliance of the teams. No doubt some will be tempted to jump ship if Colin Kolles does get a $35 million a year deal, which is three and a half times what he is getting now. That would secure the future of the team but it would not make Kolles popular with the other team owners, many of whom consider that politically-speaking HRT is an irrelevance. If others break way and sign up with Ecclestone then this will undermine FOTA."

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bill shoe wrote:They are not within 107% if a frontrunner puts in a serious Q1 lap.
Liuzzi is. He was inside 107% of Vettel's Q3 time in MAL.

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Timomies wrote:
bill shoe wrote:They are not within 107% if a frontrunner puts in a serious Q1 lap.
Liuzzi is. He was inside 107% of Vettel's Q3 time in MAL.
Really? That's actually somewhat impressive tbh.

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Timomies wrote:
bill shoe wrote:They are not within 107% if a frontrunner puts in a serious Q1 lap.
Liuzzi is. He was inside 107% of Vettel's Q3 time in MAL.
I stand happily corrected.

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dice782 wrote:Maybe they have a sponsor hence the new paint job.The chequerd pattern is the best part of the new livary.

I just think they didnt have time to do the full paintjob on the new part ....

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bill shoe wrote:Good luck to HRT again!! They have shown they can qualify, but it will be a while before it's easy. They are not within 107% if a frontrunner puts in a serious Q1 lap. I assume all their practice sessions will be 100% focused on qualy setup and speed.

There is scuttlebutt about HRT selling its soul to the devil in exchange for survival money. This means committing to Bernie long-term in exchange for more Bernie money up front. Williams did this a few years ago and the resulting Bernie committment was why Williams had to side with Bernie/FIA over FOTA in the threatened breakaway series. Having said that, Williams is still around and they are more independent than most teams. Perhaps the devil is a reasonable businessman??

Link and excerpt--

http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2011/04/ ... ing-in-kl/

"There has been a certain amount of speculation about the Hispania Racing Team doing a financial deal with the Formula One group for a pile of money each year as Bernie Ecclestone continues to try to split up the alliance of the teams. No doubt some will be tempted to jump ship if Colin Kolles does get a $35 million a year deal, which is three and a half times what he is getting now. That would secure the future of the team but it would not make Kolles popular with the other team owners, many of whom consider that politically-speaking HRT is an irrelevance. If others break way and sign up with Ecclestone then this will undermine FOTA."
I know this it off topic, but if BE signs HRT in order to try and split up FOTA then he's obviously getting a little senile. HRT aren't in FOTA.

Back on topic, good to see HRT bringing an update to the car, even if it is just a slightly modified engine cover - it shows they have the capacity to bring new parts this year.

(I fear the removal of the engine cover fin will mean they lose my favourite part of the livery - the large car number that adorned the fin...)
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Holm86 wrote:
dice782 wrote:Maybe they have a sponsor hence the new paint job.The chequerd pattern is the best part of the new livary.

I just think they didnt have time to do the full paintjob on the new part ....
I remember last year they painted driers names on pretty fast could they be using stickers?Thats white some one said on the HRT fan page

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dice782 wrote:
Holm86 wrote:
dice782 wrote:Maybe they have a sponsor hence the new paint job.The chequerd pattern is the best part of the new livary.

I just think they didnt have time to do the full paintjob on the new part ....
I remember last year they painted driers names on pretty fast could they be using stickers?Thats white some one said on the HRT fan page
I agree, the livery design is quite involved due to the way the black fades away in the chequered sections - far, far easier to use stickers than to try and paint it.
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Small change in rear wing, the RDS guide is now hidden.

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Didnt they run the new engine cover today??

Just saw the last 30min of FP2 and none of the HRT had the new cover.

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Its pretty good for hispania to have bridged the gap to Virgin and pass them with only 1,361.356km to what Virgin had in Pre Season with 3,794.760 on their MVR/02 chassis.

I think the F111 has definate potential to gain gob loads of time. I sence this could mean that Hispania will start the long slog to gain 2 seconds to gap to Team Lotus present posistion.

With updates, Hispania will geat that time up, and show Virgin what the horizion looks like. I think Virgin and Hispania will have a battle this weekend, one that ill be happy to try and follow, even tho im gonna be looking at the sharp end and the midfeild battles intently.