2012 Testing - Barcelona 2: 21-24 Feb

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Mr.S wrote:Alcatraz Raymond I just quoted PlanetF1 which is a pretty dumb site anyway. But they say that Hamilton was the only one to use Softs. They could be wrong.
Yea I saw your source (yes planet F1 is a little dodgy to be kind):wink: I just thought I remember reading early on when Riccardo was on softs, and now I can't find it. FI looks good with that time unless he was really light because that was mediums.
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Autosport reports track timing is dodgy - purple and greens are dominating the timing screens. Aparently Vettel did a triple-green lap which resulted in a laptime of 1:25.157
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Tumbarello wrote:
Mr Alcatraz wrote:
shelly wrote:You have to factor tires in that. This years pirellis could be 1,2 or even 3 seconds quicker than last year - we have no clue about that and this offsets all times comparison
Plus they brought the super softs that they didn't have last week, although no one has used them yet I think :?
I doubt the Pirelli's have changed to that degree. No one has spoken about such dramatic improvements in grip from the tyres. Surely that would have been huge news by now, no?
That might be because they didn't bring them last week, and no one has used them today. Early on in the Autosport Summarry it is stated Red Branded Supersofts are at the teams disposal for the first time today, so we just don't know!
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Correct me if I'm wrong,

for this season FIA has regulated the final centimeters of the exhaust, the position, and the angle. But they have ruled the engine mapping as well to limit off-throttle blowing. So even though teams could redirect the exhaust gases to feed diffuser/brake ducts/etc, they still have the engine mapping to get around or their car's downforce will be throttle-sensitive.

just my 2cents
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Mr Alcatraz wrote:
Mr.S wrote:Alcatraz Raymond I just quoted PlanetF1 which is a pretty dumb site anyway. But they say that Hamilton was the only one to use Softs. They could be wrong.
Yea I saw your source (yes planet F1 is a little dodgy to be kind):wink: I just thought I remember reading early on when Riccardo was on softs, and now I can't find it. FI looks good with that time unless he was really light because that was mediums.
I think everyone ran more or less LIGHT. Light as in below Half a Race fuel. Even if the car has 6-8 laps of fuel still the time WAS VERY good. Very low track temperature,first day of running on Medium Compound Tyres. This is only the 5th day of the car. They will work on it & improve the setup & probably bring small upgrades to refine the package.

For a mid-field team like Force India which came 2nd last year this time is VERY good.

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sejamesxy wrote:do anyone think you can throw the airflow get from the current flow and send it to the diffuser is illegal.I have just the thing if its not illegal.I will give to HRT .I love HRT but they need to get better and the effect is its same performance as EDB but less 40% where as EDB is 60%. I want to be Aerodynamics
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I think I could throw the airflow and it wouldnt be illegal XD

Jokes aside... I dont know what are you talking about can you explain better? XD
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dieguezzz wrote:
sejamesxy wrote:do anyone think you can throw the airflow get from the current flow and send it to the diffuser is illegal.I have just the thing if its not illegal.I will give to HRT .I love HRT but they need to get better and the effect is its same performance as EDB but less 40% where as EDB is 60%. I want to be Aerodynamics
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[img]http://formula1techandart.files.wordpre ... 1b.jpg[img]
I think I could throw the airflow and it wouldnt be illegal XD

Jokes aside... I dont know what are you talking about can you explain better? XD
I also don't understand what he means .. and to be honest I don't think this has anything to do with the Barcelona Pre-Season Test .
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Mr.S wrote:
Mr Alcatraz wrote:
Mr.S wrote:Alcatraz Raymond I just quoted PlanetF1 which is a pretty dumb site anyway. But they say that Hamilton was the only one to use Softs. They could be wrong.
Yea I saw your source (yes planet F1 is a little dodgy to be kind):wink: I just thought I remember reading early on when Riccardo was on softs, and now I can't find it. FI looks good with that time unless he was really light because that was mediums.
I think everyone ran more or less LIGHT. Light as in below Half a Race fuel. Even if the car has 6-8 laps of fuel still the time WAS VERY good. Very low track temperature,first day of running on Medium Compound Tyres. This is only the 5th day of the car. They will work on it & improve the setup & probably bring small upgrades to refine the package.

For a mid-field team like Force India which came 2nd last year this time is VERY good.
Good point now were starting to get into heavier loads as some times have gone way up!
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Schumachers consistency...

1:24.376 (35)
1:24.449 (36)
1:24.581 (37)
1:24.704 (38)
1:24.789 (39)
1:24.940 (40)
1:25.384 (41)
1:25.554 (42)
More could have been done.
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Mr Alcatraz wrote: Good point now were starting to get into heavier loads as some times have gone way up!
Times go Up ?

I see at 15h 10m vettel ran a 1:23.463 ... I don't see any huge increase in lap times.
Even ForceIndia is running 1:25.311 , previous laps where all in the 1:25'ish

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Seems like Alonso and Hamilton are both on long stints. Hamilton seems to be on a heavy fuel load.

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blokkie wrote:
Mr Alcatraz wrote: Good point now were starting to get into heavier loads as some times have gone way up!
Times go Up ?

I see at 15h 10m vettel ran a 1:23.463 ... I don't see any huge increase in lap times.
Even ForceIndia is running 1:25.311 , previous laps where all in the 1:25'ish
Hamiton was in the 129's consistantly when I posted that on a longish run! ok?
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Torro Rosso averaging 1:31s after its earlier 1:23.6

Seems it was running light to get that time.... 8 seconds off his earlier pace
More could have been done.
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Wow... Vettel doing a 1:23 on silver-branded tyres.
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raymondu999 wrote:Wow... Vettel doing a 1:23 on silver-branded tyres.
Ray that was a two flying lap stint so as much as I fear Red Bull are toying with the rest of the field. THAT is not a good example of it.
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