Exactly... it says "catch me if u can" all over itraymondu999 wrote:JET - I wasn't commenting on Red Bull vs the field. I was commenting that Vettel in an RB8 on hards, on a 24 degree track surface, came 1.4s away from the 20.9 pole time of the 2011 RB7 on softs, on 40 degrees of track temp.
Than you should have written it chief!And FYI; I actually meant that post. a 1:23 from any car; taking maybe 1.5-2 off for the blown diffuser; is quite a feat.
Was it 40 degrees?raymondu999 wrote:JET - I wasn't commenting on Red Bull vs the field. I was commenting that Vettel in an RB8 on hards, on a 24 degree track surface, came 1.4s away from the 20.9 pole time of the 2011 RB7 on softs, on 40 degrees of track temp.
Link: http://live.autosport.com/commentary.php/id/439blokkie wrote:I just like to know . Can somebody give at least a link ?
My reference is : http://www.gpupdate.net/en/testresults/ ... uary-2012/
Yep - pole comes from qualifying; not testsJohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Was it 40 degrees?raymondu999 wrote:JET - I wasn't commenting on Red Bull vs the field. I was commenting that Vettel in an RB8 on hards, on a 24 degree track surface, came 1.4s away from the 20.9 pole time of the 2011 RB7 on softs, on 40 degrees of track temp.
BARCELONA TEST DAY FOUR
MONDAY 21 FEBRUARY, 2011
21 degrees track temps according to Williams.
i think he means the actual Grand Prix, not 2011 pre-season tests.JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Was it 40 degrees?raymondu999 wrote:JET - I wasn't commenting on Red Bull vs the field. I was commenting that Vettel in an RB8 on hards, on a 24 degree track surface, came 1.4s away from the 20.9 pole time of the 2011 RB7 on softs, on 40 degrees of track temp.
BARCELONA TEST DAY FOUR
MONDAY 21 FEBRUARY, 2011
21 degrees track temps according to Williams.
And it would be distorted because Red Bull don't run test programmes during GP weekends.raymondu999 wrote:Because I'm trying to compare how close the RB8 laptimes we're getting in testing are to on-the-limit laptimes of the RB7.
This site is what I use for kart track weather conditions, but it also covers F1 circuits.blokkie wrote:I still don't know where you all get that 24C° track temp .
16:14 Track temperature: 9.6°C
16:13 Ambient temperature: 12.1°C
14:20 Track temperature: 9.7°C
14:20 Air temperature: 13°C
12:38 Track: 8.9°C
12:38 Air: 11.8°C
09:14 Track temperature: 2.0°C
09:14 Air temperature: 4.9°C
I just like to know . Can somebody give at least a link ?
My reference is : http://www.gpupdate.net/en/testresults/ ... uary-2012/
Better to compare to a benchmark that you know what they're doing; rather than one that you don't know what they're doingJohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:And it would be distorted because Red Bull don't run test programmes during GP weekends.
I don't think so to be honest. The RB8 is probably closer to a Brazil-spec RB7 - EBD + butchered nose than it is to a test-spec RB7.I think you would learn more by comparing the RB8 to the RB7 at exactly the same time in their development process.
Paul Hembery states the harder will now be 8 tenths (which is the number I used) slower than the softsNot only that, but isnt Pirellis harder tyre different this year?