HRT 2012

[dice782]

The reason they are missing their targets is down to lack of money and inexperienced/incompetent management.

After two full years in Formula 1, they should not have inexperience or incompetence left. You may say they've just replaced everyone, but then the question of course is... Why dump all the experienced people?

Around Albert Park DRS and KERS is worth around 1.5s a lap. Since HRT weren't running KERS any expected gain is a fraction of that.

I don't believe you – the normal quoted benefit of KERS is more like 0.4 seconds a lap. Marussia aren't using KERS either.

Yes I agree it was not a smart move to throw away experienced personnel when experience is more valuable to a team with very limited funding. If you read back in this thread before the start of the season you will see people expressing concern about this issue. I doubt that if the transition was handled in stages then the F112 would be as unreliable as it was.

I am a fan of HRT and I really want them to succeed, but we have to be honest with ourselves, there is no excuse that the team was unable to get their car running in time/ barely running in time. This is a management issue because management should plan ahead and make contingencies to ensure such things never happen, despite the limited budget. These are the types of things that cost the team & can cause their downfall.

I think that since HRT have had some more time to deal with the situation they will be better prepared for the next race and I am sure we will at least see one car in the race, its not ideal but the new owners chose to restart a team from scratch now we have an 80% new team that hardly know each other or know their car. What ever skill the team have and what ever performance the car has we can only know once the car actually starts running in a race.

I really wish HRT good luck

[dice782]

Good luck HRT, I wonder if they will be faster than the Marrusia cars?

Hey Cottrell I saw your sketch up well done!Looking good. Yes if HRT can get a grip with their reliability issues the F112 has some good potential of catching Marussia. Its another long season and even though they are an 80% new team ,HRT did it last year.

[dice782]

I dont read Spanish but from what the HRT fans were saying about this news article, it sounds like HRT had no Hydraulics/ power steering because of missing parts, correct me if I interpreted it wrong??. This would be shocking Hopefully we will see a good run this weekend.

[cbbcisace]

Does it matter now, Australia is behind now and we look forward to Sepang!!

[beelsebob]

I dont read Spanish but from what the HRT fans were saying about this news article, it sounds like HRT had no Hydraulics/ power steering because of missing parts, correct me if I interpreted it wrong??. This would be shocking Hopefully we will see a good run this weekend.

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if for the third year running they hadn't got a car built by the time the first race hit, in fact, it's exactly what I thought when I saw they had such issues. I'm really surprised the FIA haven't lost patience and booted HRT out yet.

[cbbcisace]

they would have booted HRT out last year if that was the case...

[Carbon]

I find the whole HRT/Marrusia scenery perplexing. I work in high performance sport, where clear development pathways are followed. Success in category x prompts you to category y, ultimately leading you to the international stage. Not performing at the world stage? Sorry, you're done. Back down the tier, come back when you can compete. Note "compete" vs. vie for victory. Back markers and pack fill are great for sport. Performers that can barely make the minimum, not so much.

I cannot understand why the Board/owners are content performing at this level. Clearly, they're in over their heads. I wish them every success, but to travel to OZ (or wherever) only to be listed as DNS doesn't make sense to me.

Round up the cavalry, get your ducks in a row, and come back when you are sure to perform at a reasonably competent level.

Just sayin.

[dice782]

Does it matter now, Australia is behind now and we look forward to Sepang!!

If it is true which I cant really believe, It kind of matters because it is the source of the cars unreliability, So in Sepang we should not see the same problems and we can finally see an indication of the F112's true pace..

I don't want to see anything like this happen, I am looking forward to the day when HRT gives everyone a pleasant surprise maybe score a point, We have had so much bad news the fans are over due some good news about now . Hopefully we can start gaining ground against our closest rivals.

The FIA won't loose patience with HRT because the Team is not breaching any rules and they are not bringing the sport into disrepute, Their struggles are not hurting anyone just their own fans.

[element]

I dont read Spanish but from what the HRT fans were saying about this news article, it sounds like HRT had no Hydraulics/ power steering because of missing parts, correct me if I interpreted it wrong??. This would be shocking Hopefully we will see a good run this weekend.

I f you have a bigger picture link I can read it. But I remember Narain quotes saying the problem with power steering was due to overheated hydraulic fluid... It could be the case for DRS though.

[dice782]

I find the whole HRT/Marrusia scenery perplexing. I work in high performance sport, where clear development pathways are followed. Success in category x prompts you to category y, ultimately leading you to the international stage. Not performing at the world stage? Sorry, you're done. Back down the tier, come back when you can compete. Note "compete" vs. vie for victory. Back markers and pack fill are great for sport. Performers that can barely make the minimum, not so much.

I cannot understand why the Board/owners are content performing at this level. Clearly, they're in over their heads. I wish them every success, but to travel to OZ (or wherever) only to be listed as DNS doesn't make sense to me.

Round up the cavalry, get your ducks in a row, and come back when you are sure to perform at a reasonably competent level.

Just sayin.

HRT are competing with Marussia and Caterham for now &one day all the other teams!

I don't mean any disrespect to you at all, but one of the reasons why you work in a high performance sport was because once upon a time when you were a newbie with passion, you had no experience or hands on skill in your respective profession. Maybe you were lucky or most likely you worked hard and persevered until finally some one gave you a chance to learn and establish yourself. How do I know because this is the route all professionals follow.

So my point is HRT and Marussia are newbies learning their profession one day they will get their break and succeed. A true failure is one that fails and gives up, a winner loses but always picks themselves up, learns and tries again regardless of what everyone says. The way HRT & Marussia are performing is not an indication of how bad these people are but its an indication on how hard F1 is, if your profession was easy then everyone would be doing it and it would loose its value. This is what makes F1 more exclusive. HRT are in F1 because millions of Spaniards have a passion for F1 and that's why they persevere to succeed.

[dice782]

I dont read Spanish but from what the HRT fans were saying about this news article, it sounds like HRT had no Hydraulics/ power steering because of missing parts, correct me if I interpreted it wrong??. This would be shocking Hopefully we will see a good run this weekend.

I f you have a bigger picture link I can read it. But I remember Narain quotes saying the problem with power steering was due to overheated hydraulic fluid... It could be the case for DRS though.

I'm afraid not I tried googling the newspaper title but don't get relevant results. Whatever it was HRT seem confident that they have solved the issues. Oh wait here....

[element]

That "half article" (is missing the lower piece) confirms that missing parts were DRS parts, that have arrived already to Malysia. Regarding the steering, Luis Perez Sala says they opened the steering box on the pits (marked portion by red square), out of the adequate environment to do it, but there was no choice.
Also I can half read that Pedro says running without power steering is really dangerous... I'll try to find the lower part to read it completely.

[element]

Extract of the article, web version http://www.marca.com/2012/03/22/motor/f ... 53193.html
It basically says what i wrote before.

[element]

As one of the best athletes in history said: I can accept failure but i can't accept not trying.

[dice782]

As one of the best athletes in history said: I can accept failure but i can't accept not trying.

Yes so as long as HRT don't give up trying I am going to be a fan !