Scuderia Ferrari 2012

[raymondu999]

I don't remember ever seeing news of who replaced John Iley after he left McLaren to Caterham in late 2011, come to think of it.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

gazzetta says "capo aerodinamico" - they seem to have fallen in the same misunderstanding as omnicorse (maybe the same person gave the hint to the two journalists while attending the fiorano event).

Usually you have head of aero, to whom head of cfd and head of wt report. Under head of wt you have several team leaders, who manage small groups of junior and senior aerodynamicists. So head of aero and team leader are two very differnt roles. Sometimes in hierarchy between head of wt and team leaders there are group leaders (es front, right).

To see who is head of aero at mclaren now, check mylink above. To check the other role, try googling "aero team leader mclaren" or "aero team leader *team*" to see multiple answers. Or check the always good Peter Wright book on ferrari to get a 2000 scheme of hierarchy, which is old but some how representative.

Omnicorse and gazzetta often have good hints and info, but do not make the little internet effort needed to get them right and give correct news.

Shelly have you seen this article about having a laser in the wind tunnel to see exhaust gas? --> http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17825/ ... -del-vento

[shelly]

On the internet you can find also this:

http://www.mclaren-jobs.com/2b_windtunnel.html

which describes what a team leader at mclaren does.

@raymondu: see my post above as of news about who has replaced Iley at Mclaren (Doug McKiernan)

At Crucial: laser in f1 wind tunnels is old news: see the article by Iaccarino posted in this forum multiple times, and the articles on piv at toyota in germany.

Another exmaple of omnicorse not making the next step.

[Chuckjr]

Shelly have you seen this article about having a laser in the wind tunnel to see exhaust gas? --> http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/17825/ ... -del-vento

From that article:
"In the experience recent teams have discovered that a shift of just a few millimeters of the discharge, perhaps due to a vibration of the engine, not to reconnect the flow and lose much of the load that was looking for. "

Is this correct? A few mm change in exhaust position can break the diffusor seal?

[raymondu999]

I wouldn't bet against it.

[Pierce89]

Of course, that's a manufacturor centric view; personally, I'd prefer to see Ferrari vs. BMW vs. Mercedes vs. Honda vs. Toyota vs. Maserati, but others would rather see Williams vs. Brabham vs. Sauber vs. March vs. that Lord with the race team (whatever they were called). I think the former is more sustainable, however.

Hesketh?

[raymondu999]

Well it's not Lord Sugar!

[Pierce89]

I guess I deserved that

[raymondu999]

Apologies if I offended you - I meant it tongue in cheek. I can't imagine Lord Sugar running his own F1 team.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

On the internet you can find also this:



At Crucial: laser in f1 wind tunnels is old news: see the article by Iaccarino posted in this forum multiple times, and the articles on piv at toyota in germany.

Another exmaple of omnicorse not making the next step.

Yeah I know PIV isn't all that new, but my point was it's new for Ferrari which is who they suggest are now using it. Maybe Maranello was upgraded.

[shelly]

@crucial: if you read the article form omnicorse it does not say ferrari use lasers. It says: "there is a tunnel in England which has a laser"

[Chuckjr]

Why is Alonso saying his car in Spain will not be much different than before?!!? WHAT?? That's completely opposite to every report leading to this race! WTF?

http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/ ... to_before/

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Why is Alonso saying his car in Spain will not be much different than before?!!? WHAT?? That's completely opposite to every report leading to this race! WTF?

http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/ ... to_before/

This is why you have to be careful where you get info from mate. Have a look at the question & answer from today's press conference

Q: (Livio Oricchio – O Estado de Sao Paulo) Fernando, you have a very different car from this race. Let’s suppose this car does not correspondent to that criteria…

FA: We’ll see, we’ll see after the race, because we don’t know what car we have. Obviously we have new parts, but everybody has new parts. Because it’s Ferrari, there are quite a lot of expectations every race we go to. It seems like only Ferrari is bringing new parts. We have a step forward, we believe, on what we had in Bahrain, but we also know that it’s not the last step we have to do. It’s a continuous work, that we need to start here in Barcelona, making a step forward and try to improve our qualifying position and our race pace, but in Monaco we have to bring new parts. In Canada (we have to) bring new parts. So we will not bring a new car to every race as it seems that we brought here in Barcelona.

He clearly says they're bringing many parts as it seems like they're bringing a new car to Barcelona.

Press conference link

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pr ... -esp1.aspx

[FakeAlonso]

Why is Alonso saying his car in Spain will not be much different than before?!!? WHAT?? That's completely opposite to every report leading to this race! WTF?

http://www.totalf1.com/full_story/view/ ... to_before/

This is why you have to be careful where you get info from mate. Have a look at the question & answer from today's press conference

Q: (Livio Oricchio – O Estado de Sao Paulo) Fernando, you have a very different car from this race. Let’s suppose this car does not correspondent to that criteria…

FA: We’ll see, we’ll see after the race, because we don’t know what car we have. Obviously we have new parts, but everybody has new parts. Because it’s Ferrari, there are quite a lot of expectations every race we go to. It seems like only Ferrari is bringing new parts. We have a step forward, we believe, on what we had in Bahrain, but we also know that it’s not the last step we have to do. It’s a continuous work, that we need to start here in Barcelona, making a step forward and try to improve our qualifying position and our race pace, but in Monaco we have to bring new parts. In Canada (we have to) bring new parts. So we will not bring a new car to every race as it seems that we brought here in Barcelona.

He clearly says they're bringing many parts as it seems like they're bringing a new car to Barcelona.

Press conference link

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pr ... -esp1.aspx

Crucial Chuckjr has a point. Alonso said no big updates!!! Look what he said
"Fernando, another winner here in 2006. How did you feel the Ferrari was in testing? Did you feel it was a lot different?
Fernando Alonso: No, not really. We didn’t have any big improvements in the car, so what we tested were different set-ups and things we missed from winter testing. It’s been quite difficult for us with a lot of problems on the car and not many laps. The Mugello test was to complete what we had left from winter but in terms of improvements, we had minimum changes on the car so it felt the same?"

http://www.yallaf1.com/2012/05/10/spani ... onference/

[xpensive]

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He clearly says they're bringing many parts as it seems like they're bringing a new car to Barcelona.
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Perhaps even a pair or two of shining bright-red-anodized Aluminium push-rod looking parts?