KERS starter idea

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gcdugas
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How difficult would it be to devise a system whereby the KERS battery and motor could be used to start an engine that has stalled on the starting line or after a spin? Provided that the KERS is charged up, I would think all that needs to be done is to slip it into neutral and fire up the KERS. 80BHP should do the trick within 8 seconds.

Any thoughts?
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Not allowed. Will be implemented with new engine regulations.
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gcdugas
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Caito wrote:Not allowed. Will be implemented with new engine regulations.
So may I therefore conclude that the idea is very achievable but currently forbidden and that the ban will soon be lifted? Oh well, it seemed like such a simple idea that many would have thought of it by now and now I gather that it has indeed been considered before now.

Uggh, the wheels of engineering progress seem to turn much faster than the wheels of legislative permission. Politics really sucks.

I also advocate onboard radiator fans for sitting on the starting line, for pit stops, and times behind the safety can when not enough air is pushed through the car while still or moving at slow speeds. This could be offset by reducing the ballast less than 6lbs as the bulk of the weight would be motor magnets and armature windings while the fan blades would be feather-light.
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gcdugas wrote:I also advocate onboard radiator fans for sitting on the starting line, for pit stops, and times behind the safety can when not enough air is pushed through the car while still or moving at slow speeds.
Same story, regulations.

But F1 guys got the way to deal with these issues, they are cutting of few cylinders. Simple, efficient and lighter solution.
Even road-relevant.

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I think the teams would rather keep the current starting method as they can play within the rules of having a hole in or around the diffuser and using it for a positive effect.

Interesting idea starting with kerz, being an electric motor, the torque would be more than enough to start the engine.

How would the FIA regulate the use of this? would the rough 6 seconds of kerz still be enforced? you would be gutted if you span out, went to use kerz to restart only then to see that you had used your allocation already... whilst stationary, there would be no kerz battery cooling yet starting would be a massive current drain (i guess) so that may be a problem they will have to overcome.

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The KERS time allocation wouldn't have to be 'used up' if using the system to restart the engine.

Apart from the fact that it should be obvious in most circumstances that the engine has died, modern Telemetry data would allow teams and officials to see that the engine had stopped and hence could allow KERS 'Restart' as a viable means of keeping cars both in the race and gettign them away from any possible safety-related positions such as on bends, in pit lanes etc.

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Does anyone know whether teams are or would be allowed to do this in 2014?