Ferrari F2012

[munudeges]

If you see today's FP1, RBR was spraying Flo-vis over their FW and floor as well. McClaren were testing 2013 parts and new side pods.

I've not seen exactly what McLaren are doing, but in the case of Red Bull they are already on to the next step from where Ferrari are - track testing a whole update. Ferrari have a lot of individual updates they have been testing in combinations until they find one they feel that works. Only when they get to that point will they be getting out the flo-viz as Red Bull are doing and actually start testing it.

Also, CFD and wind tunnel does not equal to updates working on the track.

You don't have the track time. What you bring must work as well as it possibly can in a ready configuration before it even sees a track.

DDRS of lotus was a lost concept.

They wasted a ton of free practice time to it and they went backwards.

[munudeges]

Really? I clearly remember Red Bull struggling earlier in the season & testing parts in the same manner Ferrari is. Heck they even ran completely different spec cars for the race.

They were struggling to understand what was happening and they just weren't making progress at that time, that's the point. They're not immune to all that just because they're 'Red Bull'. Ferrari and McLaren had their opportunities during that period. Once RB got past that point things got easier and Ferrari and McLaren missed their chances.

Guess you forgot about how much RB struggled with the tunnels, even taking them off completely because their CFD & track data wasn't correlating.

It had nothing to do with correlation. They had a car where they were trying to get it to do certain things they could do in 2011, they didn't know how to accomplish them and the car simply wasn't having it - not that the car was ever really bad this year. That's where you need to go beyond CFD and raw data and start generating actual ideas from grey matter.

It happens to everyone & all teams test parts in much the same way. Ferrari is no different.

Red Bull got their difficulties out of the way early on in the season. It's a little late for Ferrari to be having the struggles they're having now at the end of the season. There just isn't the time now, that's the point.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

Really? I clearly remember Red Bull struggling earlier in the season & testing parts in the same manner Ferrari is. Heck they even ran completely different spec cars for the race.

They were struggling to understand what was happening and they just weren't making progress at that time, that's the point. They're not immune to all that just because they're 'Red Bull'. Ferrari and McLaren had their opportunities during that period. Once RB got past that point things got easier and Ferrari and McLaren missed their chances.

Guess you forgot about how much RB struggled with the tunnels, even taking them off completely because their CFD & track data wasn't correlating.

It had nothing to do with correlation. They had a car where they were trying to get it to do certain things they could do in 2011, they didn't know how to accomplish them and the car simply wasn't having it - not that the car was ever really bad this year. That's where you need to go beyond CFD and raw data and start generating actual ideas from grey matter.

It happens to everyone & all teams test parts in much the same way. Ferrari is no different.

Red Bull got their difficulties out of the way early on in the season. It's a little late for Ferrari to be having the struggles they're having now at the end of the season. There just isn't the time now, that's the point.

Guess you should pay better attention because RB specifically said back then what they were seeing on track didn't match what was happening in simulation. The correlation was poor & they said as much.

As for Ferrari, they're evaluating parts in the traditional manner. There's nothing wrong or different with what they're doing.

[amouzouris]

@ Hail, as someone else correctly pointed out..that hole is for cooling the pullrod!

Ferrari has a couple of updates here in abu dhabi, Front wing endplates, another slot in the front wing and an extension of the upper slot which is similar to the one tested in the summer! There is a new rear wing, and they are testing again the vertical gills below the rear wing endplates that didn't work when tested in Singapore! Finally there is a new monkey seat!

[munudeges]

Guess you should pay better attention because RB specifically said back then what they were seeing on track didn't match what was happening in simulation. The correlation was poor & they said as much.

Nope they didn't. I'm afraid you're pulling this from the general 'correlation' nonsense that's doing the rounds these days. Not that it matters. Whatever problems they did have they solved them to give themselves enough time left in the season.

As for Ferrari, they're evaluating parts in the traditional manner. There's nothing wrong or different with what they're doing.

I beg to differ, and I've explained why. 'Evaluating' parts in the 'traditional' manner is not good enough because there isn't the track time. I seem to be repeating myself.

[ten_marco]

[ten_marco]

The first practice session was quite challenging for the mechanics of Ferrari who have been called to replace the various new parts that the Maranello team has led to Abu Dhabi. In the course of the session on the F2012 Fernando Alonso that was certainly the most evolved are seen two different types of flow diverters mounted underneath the chassis . Pictured Effe 1 Tech you can observe a phase of substitution: on the right side one can see the turning vanes new that are slightly longer and more curved with a trend and a different blowing, while on the left there are those in the traditional version . You can say that Ferrari is following in this specific development that goes in the direction of the Red Bull Racing.

[McMrocks]

lets hope that on the right pic all elements are visible

[f300v10]

Looks like initial feedback on the new parts is promising. From Adam Cooper's twitter feed:

Pat Fry says that the new parts Ferrari tried today are "looking promising". No decision yet on what spec to pursue on Saturday

[type056]

It seems Ferrari tried 2 different 6 element front wing.
6 element FW:


Another 6 element FW:

[f300v10]

I believe the top image is from Germany.

[banibhusan]

I believe the top image is from Germany.

Yep.

[Crucial_Xtreme]

New RW features a smaller flap than previous versions for better DRS efficiency. The smaller flap will be more flat when open, thus producing less drag.

Fry says all the updates look promising.

[diffuser]

Here is a shot of the first go at this wing from back in June ...

http://www.formula1.com/wi/0x0/sutton/2 ... ur1269.jpg

[ten_marco]

It's different.

Germany
[quote="diffuser"]Here is a shot of the first go at this wing from back in June ...

Abu Dahbi


This new wing was made in the tunnel of the Toyota Cologne.
I am hopeful with a victory of Fernando in Abu Dahbi.
The difference will fall!
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