Scuderia Ferrari 2013

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Kiril Varbanov wrote:
nacho wrote:Does anyone remember someone doing many laps flatout with that kind of wing damage?

I remember some with wing parts missing but not with only one pylon.
I recall the message from Smedley to Massa: "OK, half a second faster with a broken front wing, stay out." I think it was Barcelona 2011, but cannot find video footage. AFAIR the wing wasn't that much damaged, it was like broken endplate or some of the horizontal flaps, but not the whole pylon.
Barcelona 2010. Massa had locked his rears under braking for 13, and he slid into Karthikeyan. The left cascade, and the endplate holding it crooked inwards (if you remember, The 2010 Ferrari had multiple-part FWEPs). Pylon wasn't visibly damaged though.

Smilar damage was done on lap 1 in melbourne 2010 to schumacher, one pylon failed and the wing dragged along the ground. He boxed at the end of the lap - though the safety car helped their decision.
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How do you remember that?

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bhallg2k wrote:How do you remember that?
I like spinach.
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raymondu999 wrote:
Kiril Varbanov wrote:
nacho wrote:Does anyone remember someone doing many laps flatout with that kind of wing damage?

I remember some with wing parts missing but not with only one pylon.
I recall the message from Smedley to Massa: "OK, half a second faster with a broken front wing, stay out." I think it was Barcelona 2011, but cannot find video footage. AFAIR the wing wasn't that much damaged, it was like broken endplate or some of the horizontal flaps, but not the whole pylon.
Barcelona 2010. Massa had locked his rears under braking for 13, and he slid into Karthikeyan. The left cascade, and the endplate holding it crooked inwards (if you remember, The 2010 Ferrari had multiple-part FWEPs). Pylon wasn't visibly damaged though.

Smilar damage was done on lap 1 in melbourne 2010 to schumacher, one pylon failed and the wing dragged along the ground. He boxed at the end of the lap - though the safety car helped their decision.
You have your Indian drivers muddled - this incident involved Chandhok

Impressive recall nonetheless 8)
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Well it's still the HRT-driving Indian dude :mrgreen:
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If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari.

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What happened to the Ferrari Racing News? Last year there was about twenty of them and now, three test seasons over, three GPs over and still only one episode of Ferrari Racing News :(
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PaGKsjRjjU[/youtube]

Apologies that its only in Italian :/
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Una intervista eccellente, grazie!

Speaking in one's native language does wonders, because Domenicali gives off a very different "vibe" in English, and not in a good way. But when in his natural habitat (Italiani) he's extremely positive, confident, and professional. After this interview he has gained more respect and admiration from yours truly.
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mx_tifoso wrote:Una intervista eccellente, grazie!

Speaking in one's native language does wonders, because Domenicali gives off a very different "vibe" in English, and not in a good way. But when in his natural habitat (Italiani) he's extremely positive, confident, and professional. After this interview he has gained more respect and admiration from yours truly.
I was joking with Brian, ex-Champ car engineer, that I had to learn some Italian in order to translate what Andrea Stella says while I'm on air. Imagine the radio message, Stella says something, and viewers simply expect from you to translate it! Mix that with the lovely Italian accent and you get some decent entertainment: "Tre punto quattro secondi di vantaggio, no push, we are on target". So, I'm totally fine with that.

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It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.

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bhallg2k wrote:It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.
Agreed, the sane thing to do would have been to tell Fred to open it out of the last corner just before his next pit stop, that way, if it breaks, you fix it immediately and lose nothing.

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I think the mistakes made in these two races will come back to haunt them dearly. Red Bull only seems to get stronger as the season goes on.. If they have a lead early on they'll run away with the season.

Ferrari needs to step up their game as I see them as the only realistic competition to Red Bull.

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beelsebob wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.
Agreed, the sane thing to do would have been to tell Fred to open it out of the last corner just before his next pit stop, that way, if it breaks, you fix it immediately and lose nothing.
As someone mentioned on F138 thread, he would have to be within 1 sec of car in front of him, so...

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radosav wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:It's funny. The team had a awful car last year, but ran it to perfection with great strategy and flawless execution. Now the team has a great car, and they can't seem to do much of anything with it without tripping over themselves in the process.

Like the failure to stop for a new wing after the first lap in Malaysia, I don't understand why they tried to use DRS after it broke, especially so soon. It's easy to say they couldn't know just how broken it was at the time, but a very simple risk/reward analysis reveals that time gained with a functional DRS pales in comparison to time lost in the pits to fix it...again.

Avarice is a bitch, I guess.
Agreed, the sane thing to do would have been to tell Fred to open it out of the last corner just before his next pit stop, that way, if it breaks, you fix it immediately and lose nothing.
As someone mentioned on F138 thread, he would have to be within 1 sec of car in front of him, so...
I'm sure a back marker could have been organised carefully.