Specially with all the Big Money Mexican Sponsors hopping to join McLaren I can see Telmex already with a spoken deal just waiting to be able to sign it.Absolutelee wrote:With a history like McLaren's I can't imagine that one bad season will really affect their ability to draw sponsors.
I don't know about next year but I like to think in 2015 they will get rid of the silver Mercedes and have white Honda like McLaren of old, I know it was a Marlboro colour back in the day it fits Honda too. All they need is another red title sponsor Shame Telmex is blue.Racer X wrote:Specially with all the Big Money Mexican Sponsors hopping to join McLaren I can see Telmex already with a spoken deal just waiting to be able to sign it.Absolutelee wrote:With a history like McLaren's I can't imagine that one bad season will really affect their ability to draw sponsors.
Im more interested in the Livery for next year what the car going to look like with out Vodaphone and a new tittle sponsor. Would they request their own colors on the car....... could the chrome disapear or will that carry over Into McLarens future? As a big part now of its heritage.... or is it too much tied to the silver arrows'?
adrianjordan wrote:I would just die and go to heaven if than ran a special 1 year livery of McLaren Orange prior to unveiling a new livery that ties in with the Honda deal....
Edited to add: Telmex may use blue colours...but Claro has a red logo....
He will go well at Spa. I love that race, can't wait!Holm86 wrote:http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2987 ... n-s-reach/
Button all of the sudden predicts podiums in the second half of the season. He is quite confident that more improvements will take the team a step forward. So I guess the MP4-28 isn't all given up upon. It could be nice to see McLaren finish this year strongly.
I dunno, Button wasn't really anywhere close in the MP4-27 to Vettel in the RB8, only Hamilton could match or beat him. So it would take a pretty big upgrade relative to the RB9 to get button up there in an MP4-27.5.SectorOne wrote:It´s funny that even though they said the 27 performed way better then the wind tunnel suggested, they decided to scrap the fastest car from last year and build something entirely new.
Button could have been champ this year i think with a MP4-27.5
On the other hand, I guess if they didn't know why the car performed well, then they had no clear path to improve it. They'd just have been stabbing in the dark to a certain extent. In that light, it actually makes their decision more understandable. That is, they'd be trading a design they didn't really understand for one that they thought they did, and which of course looked better on paper anyway. Of course, they ended up with a design they understood even less, but there was no way of predicting that.SectorOne wrote:It´s funny that even though they said the 27 performed way better then the wind tunnel suggested, they decided to scrap the fastest car from last year and build something entirely new.
Button could have been champ this year i think with a MP4-27.5
A word comes to mind: arrogance (the underscoring is mine).Pup wrote: On the other hand, I guess if they didn't know why the car performed well, then they had no clear path to improve it. They'd just have been stabbing in the dark to a certain extent. In that light, it actually makes their decision more understandable. That is, they'd be trading a design they didn't really understand for one that they thought they did, and which of course looked better on paper anyway. Of course, they ended up with a design they understood even less, but there was no way of predicting that.
I don't think its quite a coincidence. I've talked about that before. I really don't think that Button is very good at developing a car. And I do think that Hamilton has been underestimated as a development driver.hollus wrote:A word comes to mind: arrogance (the underscoring is mine).Pup wrote: On the other hand, I guess if they didn't know why the car performed well, then they had no clear path to improve it. They'd just have been stabbing in the dark to a certain extent. In that light, it actually makes their decision more understandable. That is, they'd be trading a design they didn't really understand for one that they thought they did, and which of course looked better on paper anyway. Of course, they ended up with a design they understood even less, but there was no way of predicting that.
I find it very interesting that BAR Honda had exactly the same problem in 2004, when the car performed better than the wind tunnel data said it should, and they never understood why. They also went on to produce a melon for 2005.
Of course in both cases there was one Jenson Button in the driver roster. Coincidence?