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mantikos wrote: See, and the more I look at it, it looks like the change in profile near the end plates is because they wanted to accommodate the 3 drag reducing slots (if you extrapolate the central main plane profile there isn't room for 3).

Also, is it just me, or is the gap between the DRS flap and the end plate bigger and have 2 distinct parts?
That is also a viable option, though even without the change in profile it looks like it is possible to keep 3 slots. Remember, mclaren brought this last year:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 5/994.html

With flatter and less angled wings like that you btw don't need as many slots as with a normal spec one.
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hamilton : no big development to spa(skysport)

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great shot of the rear brake ducts, can we deduce anything further about inner rear wheel cooling from these yet? I see 3 separate airways for flow to proceed, one through the duct which we cannot see how it is branched, and two appear to be directly involve with cooling the slots in the disc and or back side of the disc. How the gap in the rear wheel plays into this I'm still not sure....

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mantikos wrote:The area of the rear wing by the end plates is compromised in terms of d/f creation and doesn't really produce much due to end plate interactions - the center of the wing produces almost all of the d/f. They aren't intending to produce more near the end plates.
From my KVRC car I've found that not to be true - for a wing that is a simple 2d extrusion, the distribution is pretty uniform, sometimes biased slightly to the edges. I dont know how closely that maps to the real world, and these were all wings with fairly low AOA, but it was the case for a number of different wings that I tried.

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cdsavage wrote:
mantikos wrote:The area of the rear wing by the end plates is compromised in terms of d/f creation and doesn't really produce much due to end plate interactions - the center of the wing produces almost all of the d/f. They aren't intending to produce more near the end plates.
From my KVRC car I've found that not to be true - for a wing that is a simple 2d extrusion, the distribution is pretty uniform, sometimes biased slightly to the edges. I dont know how closely that maps to the real world, and these were all wings with fairly low AOA, but it was the case for a number of different wings that I tried.

I was basing this on Scarbs - could be wrong

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turbof1 wrote:
mantikos wrote: See, and the more I look at it, it looks like the change in profile near the end plates is because they wanted to accommodate the 3 drag reducing slots (if you extrapolate the central main plane profile there isn't room for 3).

Also, is it just me, or is the gap between the DRS flap and the end plate bigger and have 2 distinct parts?
That is also a viable option, though even without the change in profile it looks like it is possible to keep 3 slots. Remember, mclaren brought this last year:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 5/994.html

With flatter and less angled wings like that you btw don't need as many slots as with a normal spec one.

Agree that you don't need as many as there isn't as much drag...but if you extrapolate you'd see that the main plane would end up almost touching the third slot...overall, neither one of us really know haha :)

But both are plausible or maybe even a combo...good discussion though

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mantikos wrote:
turbof1 wrote:
mantikos wrote: See, and the more I look at it, it looks like the change in profile near the end plates is because they wanted to accommodate the 3 drag reducing slots (if you extrapolate the central main plane profile there isn't room for 3).

Also, is it just me, or is the gap between the DRS flap and the end plate bigger and have 2 distinct parts?
That is also a viable option, though even without the change in profile it looks like it is possible to keep 3 slots. Remember, mclaren brought this last year:
http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/ ... 5/994.html

With flatter and less angled wings like that you btw don't need as many slots as with a normal spec one.

Agree that you don't need as many as there isn't as much drag...but if you extrapolate you'd see that the main plane would end up almost touching the third slot...overall, neither one of us really know haha :)

But both are plausible or maybe even a combo...good discussion though
Yeah it is plausible. Maybe one triggered the other.

The way the wing is made makes me feel they didn't left themselves with a big margin for error. The way they designed it, the only small drop towards the endplates, it looks like they designed it into the smallest details. You can also see by the holes that there aren't alot of wing settings with it.

Very unlike Williams, who basicilly just took their normal wing design, and pulled the middle of it to above.
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is it just me or is the gap between the rear wing flaps bigger than usual

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Again, even the paint job seems a lot more smooth and the finishing on the parts looks much better than it used to be.

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JDC123 wrote:is it just me or is the gap between the rear wing flaps bigger than usual
Maybe but I think it's just a trick of the eye. The plane angles are likely to be flatter at Spa meaning you look more across them than at them.

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I wish we could see that side all the time, absolutely beautiful.
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so they also brought the conventional rear wing in case it rains

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is it the old front wing?

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I don't think so, but we'll have to wait for top view pictures.
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