Adrian Sutil has secured a deal with Sauber to ensure himself a race seat for 2014. He will effectively make the inverse move of Nico Hulkenberg who joined Force India following his departure at Sauber.
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xDama wrote: F1 in the current era is about one thing and one thing only, sales & money. The Sirotkin-Sauber-saga is probably the most recent and most depressing fact about how F1 is so dependant on dollars.
Pay drivers are not new, they've always been there.
I'm not saying that pay drivers are a recent phenomenon, but the impact of a pay driver has significantly increased over the last years. Almost half of the field is dependant on at least 1 pay driver. And Sauber is a team that has always tried to give talented drivers a ride, and even they are now completely dependant on the money a driver brings... It's just sad to see this.
Lotus, Sauber, Williams, Caterham, Marussia and in a certain extend Force India are all dependant on at least one or preferably two pay-drivers...
It's not sad, it's just the way things are at the moment. These teams want to stay in F1, and to do that they need all the money they can get so they hire pay drivers. If you want to get touchy-feely, check out reddit's r/formula1.
"You're so angry that you throw your gloves down, and the worst part is; you have to pick them up again." - Steve Matchett
notApineapple wrote:You've obviously got some issues if thats how you read that...
That's exactly how everyone is reading it I assure you, and the denial in this thread is palpable and a little pathetic.
Announcing a driver you are signing 'for the future' at 9:30 at night doesn't say a great deal, does it? The reality is if the Red Bull team actually wanted him he would have been signed and sealed weeks ago.
aussiegman wrote:Munudeges, I would love to know where you get your "magical mind powers" and "prophetic insights" into these situations from.
Read what someone like Adam Cooper or any other Formula 1 watcher worth his or her salt is saying. The political situation at Red Bull is what it is and my like or dislike of Ricciardo won't change that. You don't announce a driver you truly believe in via the back door at 9:30PM. Everyone knows that.
The rest of the long-winded diatribe of a comment tells me that some people are taking this very personally.
xDama wrote: F1 in the current era is about one thing and one thing only, sales & money. The Sirotkin-Sauber-saga is probably the most recent and most depressing fact about how F1 is so dependant on dollars.
Pay drivers are not new, they've always been there.
At one time Peter Sauber would have the balls to reject no-hopers - Enrique Bernoldi being a case in point. The situation is rather different now.
aussiegman wrote:Munudeges, I would love to know where you get your "magical mind powers" and "prophetic insights" into these situations from.
Read what someone like Adam Cooper or any other Formula 1 watcher worth his or her salt is saying. The political situation at Red Bull is what it is and my like or dislike of Ricciardo won't change that. You don't announce a driver you truly believe in via the back door at 9:30PM. Everyone knows that.
The rest of the long-winded diatribe of a comment tells me that some people are taking this very personally.
I do read and also have friends that are closely allied within various aspects of the F1 game.
As for the rest, it's not personal, I just think a lot of what you've trotted out is unsubstantiated personal opinion you masquerade as fact as well as being rather petty to a guy that's out their having a go and doing pretty damn well at it.
Never approach a Bull from the front, a Horse from the back, or an Idiot from any direction
You're free to have your own opinion but the simple fact is a team does not announce the signing of a driver they believe in at 9:30PM. As for 'doing pretty damn well at it', he's been outscored by his team mate over the two seasons they've been together. Unsubstantiated? Hardly.
As for personal, it doesn't get more personal than a username with 'aussie' in it.
xDama wrote: F1 in the current era is about one thing and one thing only, sales & money. The Sirotkin-Sauber-saga is probably the most recent and most depressing fact about how F1 is so dependant on dollars.
Pay drivers are not new, they've always been there.
and it depends on the definition of pay driver,. I'm sure Santanders ~40M€ to Ferrari is pretty much tied to them having
the Spanish driver Alonso
Oh my god, Ferrari are about to announce driver line up, they haven't signed anybody. Lotus's wait may be over. Not really, if not Ferrari it's going to be: will KR leave F1(?!) for couple more months. Last chance to throw your favourite driver in there, last chance to sell some clicks on outrageous rumour, last chance for teams and drivers to get some free publicity.
This silly season is in fact 100% boring, how will Ricciardo do is interesting but mildly. With Ferrari it's a bit like RB but without Webber being fed up and worse performing Massa, another +1 transition contract, or some change at nr 2.
Alonso was snapping pictures of the Tifosi at Monza at the end of the podium presentation. I found that rather curious. Suppose Ferrari replace both of their drivers?
Whatever.....
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