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Thanks for the video. I think the value for hosting F1 just drop by half.
CHT wrote:Thanks for the video. I think the value for hosting F1 just drop by half.
I feel like if I just heard the audio from that, I would have not identified the race to have F1 cars.
I simply can't see all that hybrid thing, even with all the propaganda. Most manufacturers are still to have hybrid models (no surprise, they are yet so expensive only the biggest ones will make them) and maybe only in the US market they have any actual relevance. I can assure you that after all the manufacturers and green propaganda they are a mere curiosity so far in like 90% of the world. Even in Europe where you have people more willing to spend on a car and more concerned about fuel economy, they just buy diesels (and it's a much better choice).CHT wrote: You'd have all the road car manufacturers drift off in a few years and be left with the big developments going on in Sports Car racing.
The manufacturers are all moving towards hybrid technology of all types and F1 having a loud scream engine would just end up being an anachronism. F1 has to embrace the new power unit technology but also has to do a better job of selling it and including the fans in the spectacle.
I am enjoying hearing tyre squeal and all of the other noise that was drowned out by the engines.
As a TV watcher of F1 I lost nothing but I think the broadcasters should have access to much more telemetry about the PU systems and what the drivers/cars are doing at any given time.
The sound is not the issue for me.
Bang on. Tickets for F1 are always expensive and I would not bother spending a day under the sun, unconfortable and seeing the cars for only some seconds a lap to see/hear this. I would simply see it home or not even that and would buy tickets to a more enjoyable experience (like GP2/DTM/BTCC). F1's trademark was speed and noise. Not much left now, the cars are almost like Indy cars the way it isShakeman wrote: TV viewers are easier to please as many might never experience what its like to be watching the race at the track.
When someone pay $1000 for a ticket to be seated right in front of the start and finish line, they would expect an experience of a life time. ie. when 22 screaming engines come to live.
Change is supposed to bring us to a better place. Change for the sake of changing is just more nowadays insanityCptPeanut wrote:I just find it strange that fans of one of the most high tech forms of motorsport are so resistant to progress/change.
Hearing the crowd is in fact cool, but tires are barely noticeable anyway. Performance tires actually don't have much of a squeal. The turbo whine is boring, it's nothing like a normal turbo. All in all, it's a lossRoland Ehnström wrote:I seem to be in the minority, but I've got to say I like these engines a lot more than I expected to. I like how "mechanical" they sound (which is ironic considering that they are partly electric). I like how you can hear the turbo whine. I also like how you can hear the tires squeal and the crowd cheer.
Sure, they could increase the volume a bit, especially on the TV broadcast, but overall I like the sound of these engines more than I liked the V8:s.
It's interesting to see the shift of the discussion. Now that the fears of cars not finishing at all have gone, we have all returned to the Sound issue.CHT wrote:On board sound comparison...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbiBPfj-F5k
It'll be a proud day in Stuttgart when Mercedes-Benz finally rolls out the new E-Class Wagon with high-downforce wing technology taken directly from its experiences competing in Formula One. I mean, if you can't pull at least 3 g on your way to the grocery store, why bother with even going in the first place, yanno?Kiril Varbanov wrote:The V8s were...absolutely irrelevant to today's car industry...
V8s rpm limited were already absolutely DULL, all the same sound. V10s or anything before the limited V8 era had proper sound.
For hardcore f1 fans, even if there is no engine sound, it will still be music to the ears. The only question now is how much F1 fans are now willing to pay to watch the V6 F1dancing around the track. The aussie has spoken, so lets wait to see what the malaysian thinks in 2 weeks time.Kiril Varbanov wrote:It's interesting to see the shift of the discussion. Now that the fears of cars not finishing at all have gone, we have all returned to the Sound issue.CHT wrote:On board sound comparison...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbiBPfj-F5k
While I agree that the new engines are strange hybrid between electrical appliance and a racing engine, everybody knew that the turbo will be a big silencer. The V8s were goners from the very beginning. That's not to say I don't like them, but they were painful to the ears, honestly, and absolutely irrelevant to today's car industry. Teams did not like them, too, as they don't bring new knowledge to be fed back into the engine's manufacturer portfolio.
The V6, on the other side, are pretty bearable to the ears, and I'd love to hear higher pitch. I mean, something can be done to spice up the sensation of hearing F1 engine. There is no drama now, but I believe a compromise exists.