Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

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beelsebob wrote: Why do people think this? Hamilton has already shown he can win 4 races on the trot, he only has to win 3 this time to get back on par.
Being on par isn't enough, one needs to be 15 points ahead to be able take it easy at the final race.

Unless Renault finds 80hp somewhere and start mixing things up.

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I think this year rosberg is gaining an advantage with the whole sharing data thing (we know lewis strength is natural ability-speed), i say this because its baffling that last year lewis wasn't comfortable in car and he admitted that, this year surely he's more comfortable in car we know last year lewis beat rosberg in quali head to head with a car not to his liking. I believe people under estimate lewis ability to setup a car and after p2 rosberg said he would look at the data. I also think sharing the data could also be hindering the team/drivers because the driver are too focused(psychologically) on improving their laps on say where the other drivers gaining more time and not think about the bigger picture the whole lap.

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Hats off to Rosberg if he's able to replicate Ham's strong points and then go faster. Lewis might be the more gifted of the pair, but the way in which Rosberg plays the mental game and maximizes all the other areas where there's anything to be gained make what he has achieved even more remarkable.

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I think its time for Hamilton to go, Rosberg is a far better driver and more fluid
at what he does in the car, Hamilton is more ham fisted in his approach to driving
and causes a lot of his own misfortune !!!

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huey45 wrote:I think its time for Hamilton to go, Rosberg is a far better driver and more fluid
at what he does in the car, Hamilton is more ham fisted in his approach to driving
and causes a lot of his own misfortune !!!
Agreed.

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Constructr wrote:
huey45 wrote:I think its time for Hamilton to go, Rosberg is a far better driver and more fluid
at what he does in the car, Hamilton is more ham fisted in his approach to driving
and causes a lot of his own misfortune !!!
Agreed.
Also agreed.

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ernos5 wrote:
Constructr wrote:
huey45 wrote:I think its time for Hamilton to go, Rosberg is a far better driver and more fluid
at what he does in the car, Hamilton is more ham fisted in his approach to driving
and causes a lot of his own misfortune !!!
Agreed.
Also agreed.
Disagree.

He didn't break the ERS unit, and it wasn't his fault the rear brakes failed.
Felipe Baby!

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It's always Hamilton's fault here, maybe when it rains, it's also his fault.

He was faster than Nico in Canada and jumped him during the pit stops, pacewise Nico can't match Lewis, so Lewis is clearly the better driver.

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Come on, what is it with all the bad mouthing of these drivers. Both are very gifted, we should be glad to see a battle like this. Saying that one driver or the other is clearly superior in whatever way is just off target. Hamilton shouldn't go and Rosberg isn't a punk either. They are simply two very different personalities who happen to be insanely quick.

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thomin wrote:Come on, what is it with all the bad mouthing of these drivers. Both are very gifted, we should be glad to see a battle like this. Saying that one driver or the other is clearly superior in whatever way is just off target. Hamilton shouldn't go and Rosberg isn't a punk either. They are simply two very different personalities who happen to be insanely quick.
Finally something in this thread that I agree on!

It's making for a fantastic year of racing. I'm thankful Rosberg is as fast as he is this year because otherwise Hamilton would probably have been winning more comfortably, which is boring.
Felipe Baby!

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I'm just concerned the best driver isn't going to win the WDC. Nico has had 43 free points this year from Lewis's DNF's - yet the gap is only 22 points. That shows the best driver isn't leading the championship.

I'm not fanboying Lewis, but theres no doubt who should be leading this fight by a margin. It's also clear to see and work out that even 1 DNF for Nico will be a big disadvantage for him (based on this season so far) so things could easily turn around very quickly - even at the next race

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astracrazy wrote:I'm just concerned the best driver isn't going to win the WDC. Nico has had 43 free points this year from Lewis's DNF's - yet the gap is only 22 points. That shows the best driver isn't leading the championship.

I'm not fanboying Lewis, but theres no doubt who should be leading this fight by a margin. It's also clear to see and work out that even 1 DNF for Nico will be a big disadvantage for him (based on this season so far) so things could easily turn around very quickly - even at the next race
What is even more annoying at Merc is, they aren't allowing free hand to drivers to choose and execute their own strategies. Leading Driver will make the call to pit first and no matter what, the following driver will have to wait and it becomes a helpless situation. There is no doubt that, Lewis feels frustrated for the fact that, all his practice, qualifying and race data is made available to Nico, which definitely helps Nico understands where concentrate on. It is also true other way round, but Lewis has always done better than his team mates (except for 2011) and probably doesn't feel Nico's data is any more important.

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astracrazy wrote:I'm just concerned the best driver isn't going to win the WDC. Nico has had 43 free points this year from Lewis's DNF's - yet the gap is only 22 points. That shows the best driver isn't leading the championship.

I'm not fanboying Lewis, but theres no doubt who should be leading this fight by a margin. It's also clear to see and work out that even 1 DNF for Nico will be a big disadvantage for him (based on this season so far) so things could easily turn around very quickly - even at the next race
Well you are fanboying. Both drivers drive very well with little between them. Now claiming after Canada that Lewis is the best driver and will not win WDC is just premature and incorrect. Both in Bahrain and Spain Rosberg was the faster guy, but Hamilton got the win. So by your logic you should be worried that in the end it might be Rosberg who is best but not WDC...

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prince wrote: What is even more annoying at Merc is, they aren't allowing free hand to drivers to choose and execute their own strategies. Leading Driver will make the call to pit first and no matter what, the following driver will have to wait and it becomes a helpless situation. There is no doubt that, Lewis feels frustrated for the fact that, all his practice, qualifying and race data is made available to Nico, which definitely helps Nico understands where concentrate on. It is also true other way round, but Lewis has always done better than his team mates (except for 2011) and probably doesn't feel Nico's data is any more important.
It is not just at Merc that way, it is everywhere. When two drivers of the same team are on the same strategy, closely behind each other, you pit the lead driver first. Otherwise the undercut would kick in and give the second driver the advantage at the cost of the leading driver....that is by no means fair. Also, First pitstops are always stretched to the point where they do not run into other cars after the pitstop. If either driver on his own behalf wants to pit earlier, without knowing about track positions etc. he might lose it completely..

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Good post Mandrake. People are forgetting Lewis' dirty driving and blocking earlier in the year and think he is entitled to the WDC. He is getting outsmarted and outdriven by Nico at the moment, it makes it a lot spicier.