A shameless image thread for the enginephiles

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strad wrote:Veyron engine??
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Honda V12 engine in Honda RA271 of Ronnie Bucknam

http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/078.jpg
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Ferrari flat 12 engine
http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/079.jpg
I see Honda uses a transverse mounting, how common was that at the time? Any other pics of transverse F1 engines?

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richard_leeds wrote:
strad wrote:Veyron engine??
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Honda V12 engine in Honda RA271 of Ronnie Bucknam

http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/078.jpg
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Ferrari flat 12 engine
http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/079.jpg
I see Honda uses a transverse mounting, how common was that at the time? Any other pics of transverse F1 engines?
Old man Honda had some ah, odd fixations, including those air-cooled V12 F1 mills..
& yeah that `65 transverse unit also featured a sophisticated ( & tricky) fuel injection system with variable length stacks.
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The Honda 1.5 V12 and its tranverse mounting was unique, never done before, or later;

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Interesting enough, Lamborgini did it too, at around the the same time;

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The most fascinating was the 1968 3.0 V8, air-cooled, not by a fan but simply through air-stream.

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But it all ended in tears;

It would only appear in one race,[3] the 1968 French Grand Prix at Rouen-Les-Essarts,[3] driven by Jo Schlesser.[3] Schlesser was chosen to drive the RA302 because normal Honda driver John Surtees (who was the 1964 world champion) refused to drive it[3] as he deemed it to be unsafe and labelled it as a "potential deathtrap".[4] This was proven on lap two of the Grand Prix; Schlesser crashed at the Virage des Six Frères section of the circuit and the car came to rest sideways against a bank.[4] The magnesium-bodied Honda and 58 laps worth of fuel ignited instantly, killing Schlesser[3] and destroying the original RA302.[4]

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Test Bench circa 1965

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Test Bench circa 1965

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richard_leeds wrote:
strad wrote:Veyron engine??
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Honda V12 engine in Honda RA271 of Ronnie Bucknam

http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/078.jpg
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Italian GP, Monza 6 Sept 1964
Ferrari flat 12 engine
http://www.stradsplace.com/photos/079.jpg
I see Honda uses a transverse mounting, how common was that at the time? Any other pics of transverse F1 engines?
the answer is in the thread 'the stillborn McLaren V12 Lambo project' in the General Chat section
the Honda was based on the 1963 Maserati Tipo 8/F1, as was the Muira
see Sombrero's post, the last of the thread

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strad wrote:Silly me..I found a video of the Spider at Shelby Walsh
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You're welcome.. ..&..
Ah, did you mean Shelsey Walsh.. Strad?
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Alfa Romeo Tipo B P3
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Half an H16, is it?
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Sure looks like a V8 from that shot, but mayhaps is, internal architecture-wise?
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in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
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J.A.W. wrote:Sure looks like a V8 from that shot, but mayhaps is, internal architecture-wise?
Its the V8 with the exhausts between the V.
Looks like the Bourne Dyno.

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The 1.5 BRM P261 engine was indeed a V8, but then redesigned to a flat for the H16, a hopeless contraption.

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There was the Lancia Thema V8 (Ferrari) transverse FWD..
& Moto-Guzzi did a V8 GP 500.. Pix anyone?
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in good Kiwi style - riding a Massey Ferguson farm
tractor - with a few extemporised mod's to hack the task).

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didn't the 3 litre aircooled Honda have a cast 'water jacket' with a fan drawing air through instead of water ?
and a lot of oil cooling
Mr Honda's pet scheme, intended as a much quieter arrangement in a road car than usual air cooling schemes

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