Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

[Postmoe]

So was Yusuke Hasegawa Head of the Skunkworks Team which apparently build the PU Version that will be used this Year?

I bet it's Wazari's nephew.

[isullivan]

Very strange why axe him now and not at the end of last year ?
Also a "Rogue Team" developing a version of the PU on the side is that confirmed ?

[namao]

Very strange why axe him now and not at the end of last year ?
Also a "Rogue Team" developing a version of the PU on the side is that confirmed ?

Is confirmed by Honda that they will test a PU mark 1 this week and a PU mark 2 next week. Who did those engines? We don't know.

[Thunder]

Very strange why axe him now and not at the end of last year ?
Also a "Rogue Team" developing a version of the PU on the side is that confirmed ?

Apparently they do their reshuffle once a Year if i'm reading the Press release right. Also the Board Meeting at witch the decision was made was last Tuesday.

Honda announces its Formula One organizational changes for 2016
Tokyo - February 23, 2016

Honda Motor Co., Ltd. has announced today its annual organizational and personnel changes, including Operating Officers and Directors’ changes, effective April 1, 2016. In line with this decision, Honda has implemented changes in its managerial structure that oversees Honda’s Formula One (F1) project.

Honda Motor Co., Ltd will appoint a new Director role to oversee and supervise all F1 related undertakings to strengthen the organizational structure for Honda’s F1 project.

Yoshiyuki MATSUMOTO
・Senior Managing Officer and Director, Supervising Director of F1 Project, Honda Motor Co., Ltd
・President, Chief Executive Officer and Representative Director, Honda R&D Co., Ltd.

Furthermore, in accordance with the organizational changes in Honda R&D Co., Ltd,
Yusuke HASEGAWA has been assigned to replace Yasuhisa ARAI to oversee the development, manufacturing and management of the F1 project.

Yusuke HASEGAWA
・Executive Chief Engineer and Head of F1 Project, Honda R&D Co., Ltd. As of March 1, 2016

Yasuhisa ARAI
・Senior Managing Officer, Honda R&D Co., Ltd. As of March 1, 2016

[pastaracing]

Remember that You have to decide which way You want to go before 28th of February.
If they test another engine next week and that is not homologated before 28th, then You have to spend tokens to use the parts that differs (if it's allowed this year, maybe the loophole was only for 2015, or ??)

[noname]

Very strange why axe him now and not at the end of last year ?
Also a "Rogue Team" developing a version of the PU on the side is that confirmed ?

I can not resist the feeling Arai is paying for his bosses mistakes.
Honda screwed up by heavily underestimating the challenge.

[tok-tokkie]

This is really depressing news. So it appears they have not even settled on a PU design and there are two factions involved and just a few days before the engine freeze. What a mess again.

[Andres125sx]

My sources in Japan state that the upgrades that the 2016 PU will have at the next test was done by a 'Rogue R&D Team' run by ex-Honda F1 engineers(it looks like they where shamed/embarrassed with the product the young team and their leaders delivered last year).

What I heard was they ran their own development and their's ran better and fixed last years ERS problems.
Honda's problem lately is too many yes men over get it done men!

I´d love to know how reliable are your sources

It doesn´t look that crazy once you´ve read here Honda policy is relying on young engineers making their own way without external aids, wich IMHO is a loable policy, but for long term projects, not if you need results quickly as is Honda situation right now

[Andres125sx]

This is really depressing news. So it appears they have not even settled on a PU design and there are two factions involved and just a few days before the engine freeze. What a mess again.

Mess? How would you know what route is correct beforehand otherwise?

It´s a costly route, but the only one wich guaratee you´ll choose the best one

[Thunder]

I wouldn't call it a Mess. Honda is doing everything to get back to the Top. And seemingly Arai wasn't the right man for that. As in their whole F1 Journey they are willing to take risks to get to the Top. They have vastly less development Time than the other 3 Engine makers and they somehow must overcome that. That's why they bring 3 different PU Specs until Melbourne. Development up until the very last second.

[mclaren111]

tok-tokkie:

This is really depressing news. So it appears they have not even settled on a PU design and there are two factions involved and just a few days before the engine freeze. What a mess again.

I agree. We won't see any meaningful development until European "season" starts in Spain

[Thunder]

How can you say that when we have reports even from Jenson Button that the PU they are driving now will NOT be the one for Melbourne?

Seriously stop the doom and gloom people. It's not like he had all the Information, Contacts, Technical drawings and Phone Numbers nd simply dissapeared..... Both Arai and Hasegawa are at the Track and there is a totally normal transition Phase. This happens a million Times in Management positions. The World doesn't stop turning.

[bauc]

How can you say that when we have reports even from Jenson Button that the PU they are driving now will NOT be the one for Melbourne?

Seriously stop the doom and gloom people. It's not like he had all the Information, Contacts, Technical drawings and Phone Numbers nd simply dissapeared..... Both Arai and Hasegawa are at the Track and there is a totally normal transition Phase. This happens a million Times in Management positions. The World doesn't stop turning.

''Some people just want to see the world burn'' - quote from the Dark Night Rises

[FW17]

If there was a rouge team within Honda working on parallel line, then it is a mess. It means Managers couldn't agree on what line to develop on and someone from another division getting involved would be the heights of internal politics.

Now the Head of F1 engine is moved out and the man from who led the rouge effort is now the new head. If it is not a mess now, it certainly was a mess in the last few months during the crucial winter period when they had to deliver 2.5 seconds. And not be having internal conflicts.

[FrukostScones]

found on forums autosport:

According to a supposed insider from vtec.net forums, the reason is that internally a second team made better engine (eg "won" internal for Honda comnpetition between engines)



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"The final straw for him was the new TC designed by the 'Rogue R&D Engineers supported by retired ex-Honda F1 Engineers' won the internal comp!

Arai was 100% against their design so they did it behind his back with the blessing of the F1 Legends.

This is why it will not be ready until the first race.

Arai was just thick headed and was going to stick with last years failed design....keep on doing the say thing thinking it will do better cost him his job! "