New qualifying format...

[dans79]

As much asi hate it, it seems even Australia, despite the anti climax in Q3 delivered somewhat: Haas got eliminated too quick, so these are two of the faster cars out of position. So are arguably the McLaren. And the Ferraris used a set of SS less by only doing one run in Q3...

I agree, but your casual fan doesn't care about much past row 2.

[Shrieker]

Watching the sky broadcast, at least everyone is of the opinion that this is sh!t, including the team bosses. Who were told it could turn out this way but still voted, and after voting started complaining before arriving at Melbourne -..-

[Sevach]

Watching the sky broadcast, at least everyone is of the opinion that this is sh!t, including the team bosses. Who were told it could turn out this way but still voted, and after voting started complaining before arriving at Melbourne -..-

Yep, they approved this crap, then got out of the room and started saying it was crap

[geogate]

I'd like to think it will be dropped very soon - but suspect the blame will be placed on the teams from those who came up with this nonsense., and heads will be burried in sand, amidst of a chorus of la la la's.

[SunsAnvil]

I live and therefore watch F1 in Germany although I don't speak very good German. I couldn't believe it when Button and then Alonso simply calmly got out of their cars and walked off. Then later on the Ferrari drivers did the same. It was terrible.

[ollandos]

q1 its good
q2 for sure need extra tyres
q3 the old format its ok ...

[Felipe 92]

Q1 and Q3 didn't work either. The slowest 4 or 5 cars in each session don't get a chance to run again, simply because they can't turn the car around fast enough.

+1
6 mins before end of Q3 only Mercedes were on track and nobody went out again. And 3 mins before end David Croft (Sky F1) said that this format has great potential.
It`s rubbish and they should stop making new unnecessary changes and rules every year.

[pob]

Well that was a terrible quali session:

• ◘Teams didn't understand the implications of the new rules: some had drivers on laps that wouldn't count or sitting in the garage when they needed to be out
  ◘A lot of the cars can't do a second run as there isn't enough time to turn the car around
  ◘Tyre rules made it worse: drivers in p9/10 are probably better off not going for another run even if there is time. Some ran out of tyres by the end of quali, not helped by choosing the tyre allocation before this format was finalised.
  ◘The hybrid rules make it worse too: the ERS can't be at 100% deployment for 2 consecutive timed laps.
  ◘FOM graphics could have been better. They shouldn't have the countdown clock for the last guy in each session as he can finish the lap he is on.
  ◘The cameras were often following the wrong people, although this happened before, it's just more important now when each elimination is only between 2 or 3 people.
  ◘Less running and an empty track at the end of the session is very anticlimatic.

If this format isn't immediately ditched, I'd tweak it so each elimination is 90s later than now, and have it so two drivers are eliminated at the end of each session: one straight away when the clock reaches 0 and the other when everyone has taken the chequered flag.

[Cold Fussion]

• ◘FOM graphics could have been better. They shouldn't have the countdown clock for the last guy in each session as he can finish the lap he is on.

This isn't correct, if you're on the bubble and you're currently setting a time and the 90s expsires before you complete your time, your lap is meaningless. At the end of 90s the last driver is eliminated regardless of what they're doing. The only time this isn't true is for the last elimination of session where confusingly (in context) the 90 second elimination time is to checkered flag being deployed, so if you're on a lap and you crossed before the checkered flag your lap will count.

It continuously blows my mind that Formula 1 is probably the most heavily loaded industry with engineers and yet logical thinking and problem solving is Formula 1's unicorn.

[pob]

^I meant they had a countdown clock for the guys in p9 and p16 even though they would be allowed to complete their laps

anyway... this format seems to make a big upset less likely in some ways: the best cars can afford to fuel for more than one-timed lap; also, less drivers are under threat from elimination after the first run as not everyone can do a second run.

[dot235]

Well after today it's safe to assume that the new qualy format is LESS entertaining than the old one.
And neither does it mix up the grid enough to make it worth destroying all the drama from the Q2 and Q3.

[Cold Fussion]

Whether it allows for more upsets or not is neither here or there really. The point of qualifying used to be and should be to order the cars on the grid from fastest to slowest. If your intention for qualifying is to upset the 'correct' running order, then you are no longer conducting a legitimate qualifying session. If the only purpose is to mix up the order then it would be far better to put the drivers names into a sorting hat and then televise Bernie picking names out of the hat.

[dot235]

What they did is basically gave more time to the cars that don't need it (as they sit in the pits) and took the time away from the cars that would otherwise be on track.
So what we are left with is drivers leaving the pits long before the session is over and fans getting encouraged to head back home.

Uh, and the leading driver needs to FINISH his flying lap BEFORE the checkered flag. WHAT?
This is super confusing, but even if in fact only the 2nd best driver gets eliminated on the checkered flag, what's the fricking point for the fastest driver in completing his flying lap when there is literally no one else left taking part in the session?

Rubbish. This is messed up on so many more levels than I initially thought it will be.

[i70q7m7ghw]

What they did is basically gave more time to the cars that don't need it (as they sit in the pits) and took the time away from the cars that would otherwise be on track.
So what we are left with is drivers leaving the pits long before the session is over and fans getting encouraged to head back home.

Nail on the head. The fast cars are safe so they don't get knocked out and can do more laps, but don't need to. The slow cars need more laps as the track gets quicker, but get knocked out too soon.

This format is basically going to make it so much easier for the faster cars, because there's very little potential for the slower teams to spring a surprise towards the end of a sessions, they've already been knocked out.

[Sevach]

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/lauda ... ds-680654/

That puts a little perspective into the thing.