The World Motor Sport Council has today formally approved the return of the Formula One qualifying system as it was used in 2015. This means the elimination of 6 cars in the first two parts of qualifying, before a shootout among 10 cars in the final session.
What you mean? Shhh...Moose wrote:It's really sad that we're having this discussion at all.
Dear Bernie:
Formula 1 is not a show. It is not wrestling. Yes we all want it to be entertaining, but first and foremost, Formula 1 is a competitive sport. You can't bias against drivers or teams, or penalise people who are good at what they do simply because you think it will make for more exciting TV.
Indeed so. But then FOM would have to go against Bernie's wishes of not showing Mercedes too much.cooken wrote:While Nico and Lewis were out setting their laps, the broadcast was stuck in pitlane focused on stationary Ferraris. Only reverted back to actual track action for sector 3. I mean, even if you fix the qualy format, they need to do a waaay better job capturing on track action.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35850766But Ecclestone said he would prefer to retain parts of the old system and then have a way of demoting the fastest drivers on the grid.
"My idea was a simple one - you leave qualifying alone," he said.
"But I wanted to take the results of the last race, and the guy that won that race would have so many seconds, or tenths of a second, added to his qualifying time.
"So that might put the guy on pole in sixth or seventh or wherever, and then we would get a mixed-up grid and some good racing for at least half the race."
Supersoft is only good for one timed lap. Improvement on lap2 or lap3 etc is not possible.fenix4life wrote:Even though I agree that the current session was a joke however I'm not sure if it is caused by Bernie.
I think the teams have also a part in this failure.
The new format would work if the slower teams will fight for their place.
What we saw is that they were still driving as last year. Meaning, they do one lap and go to the pit box.
What they should have done is add fuel for 2, 3, 4 laps and drive and defend your place.
What we saw was eg the McLarens.
They were in the pits when they were not even close to knock out zone (certainly Alonso).
They did not seem to care. They were still looking at the clock to go out at the final minutes of Q2 however were knocked out before even going out.
Same with Q3, Sainz, verstappen,... should have been fuelled for several timed laps in the format.
They know they will be knocked out.
Instead they went for safe.
This resulted in Ferrari saying, well we will never beat Mercedes, as the ones just behind us are going to be out in the next minutes we don't need to go out.
If they want to stick with this format they should force them to be fuelled for eg 3 timed laps.
This will the gain of just doing one timed lap might not be sufficing if someone goes for 3 timed laps.
So idd, what we saw was a joke.
However the system last year where in q3 they just do 2 timed laps is also not really what it is supposed to be.
I wasn't trying to criticise you. Only showing the consequences.FoxHound wrote:Firstly, the point is we get cars out on track pushing to the last, trying to get as good a lap time after the "penalty" is added. Something that was missing today.henry wrote:Here's your grid if you take top 10 last year championship and apply your rule. Your task is to spot the difference.
Secondly, all results were skewed today because there were 25% less laps this year compared to last, with a 10% bigger grid.
Disclaimer....percentages aren't exact, but ballpark. Currently mobile....
