such is the difference

[West]

I never said that F1 was exciting. In fact in another forum I said people stopped posting here because F1 is boring (I was a guest in another post). Of course people are going to try to convince themselves that F1 is an exciting sport; if they didn't they'd never watch it again and people would stop visiting all those websites. I only watch F1 in hopes of Ferrari doing a double DNF. I'll admit that 2002 Austria was the lamest thing I ever heard of (I didn't know about it until the end of the season).

Ferrari doesn't overtake on the road because they don't need to, at least Michael doesn't. Their car is good enough that they can do whatever they want and still win. Look at their recent four-stop strategy; even Michael said "no risk, no fun." It's everybody else's fault for not making the right car (or u can blame Michelin, one or the other).

In all cases I'm not a Ferrari fan, but I admit they get the job done regardless how everybody talks sh*t about them. Their job is to win, and their opponents are making it easy for them. They spend the money the other teams don't and unfortunately, that's what winning takes.

As for Rossi's form, I don't know why you brought that up. He crashed around lap four or five and tried to get back into the race... then he ended up DNF.

[ReubenG]

The unfortunate part of trying to disect the Ferrari "package" is that Schumacher is the single biggest part - Sunday at Magny Cours being a prime example.... Brawn and the other engineers coming up with the 4 stopper, the pit mechanics for the flawless stops, and MS for putting in the consistenly fast laps when he needed them most. The comments about the Scuderia being THE TEAM are spot on - one never hears anyone from the Ferrari camp bad mouth part of the team...not always the case for the other teams (should really refer to them as groups of talented engineers, mechanics and drivers, who aren't always working together on the same thing)

[sharkie17]

hudsonhawk, I've been a Ferrari fan since i was 12 and i like seeing Ferrari win.(even thru the crappy years when they couldnt win a spitting contest)

[hudsonhawk]

West,

The Rossi issue was brought up because those that watched it would see a true "racer" and "race". Rossi and Gibernau are both on 126 points in the title race. Gibernau crashed out very very early in the race. After his rival crashed out Rossi could have plodded around and taken a decent lead on his rival, but he chose to stay on the ragged edge, on a bike that had no chance at Rio (they couldn’t set the Yamaha up all weekend-You only have to look at his qualifying position for evidence of this if you dont follow motogp). Anyway, point is, "he is a racer". None of this "lets play it safe".

Shytemaker has a massive lead, yet he chooses to exploit his sport for a win. Rossi, is even steven with his rival, despite this he puts it on the line.

Shuie has the creme della creme of machinery beneath him and he can't produce an overtaking maneuver. Rossi has what would be equivalent to the mp4-19, (yahamahara) yet he takes it to a level it shouldn't be, a level it’s not capable of, but he puts it there. When the light turn green he leaves the calculator in the shed, but Shuie, Shuie has one on his steering wheel, in his helmet and down his pants.

I can’t believe someone applauded the 4 stop strategy. I mean are all the Nigel, Computer Freaks, Nerds and Mathematicians of this world getting into F1. What happened to racing boys? Why couldn’t he have stuck to the 3 stop strategy and overtaken that Fart-land-n-toe Alonso. I mean if he’s as good as he suggests then why doesn’t he. Or is he worried someone will purposely crash into him !!

Shytemaker started exploiting the rules from the day he took out Dumbman Hill to cheat his 1st Drivers Title, to the weekend just gone where he has renamed the pitstop strategy, the spitstop strategy.

Catchya on the Highway
Hudsonhawk

[bernard]

Why couldn?t he have stuck to the 3 stop strategy and overtaken that Fart-land-n-toe Alonso. I mean if he?s as good as he suggests then why doesn?t he. Or is he worried someone will purposely crash into him !!

I agree. People praise Schumi as the best river ever, so you would think he would be capable of making one simple overtake, especially with a better car when other drivers make them all the time, rather than relying on Brawn to calculate how he can drive through the race with the minimun risks. He is lame. Not a real racer.
And by the way, on some post some know-it-all said that schumi makes race strategies while he is driving the race. Sorry to disappoint you, but he doesn't. It's Brawn that make the calculations. Or do you suggest that schumi is driving the car and while doing it he takes all the variables into count and sees the race as a whole and then calculates it all up? Hell no. He just listens what he hears from the radio. Brawn and the new guy they hired this season to calculate strategies have computer programs that calculate the best strategies by feeding in the variables. Everything to them is a matter of mathematics. They probably even calculate how, when, how many times and in what positions Schumi and his wife have sex. To avoid all risks and maximize the success rate.

[sharkie17]

Why couldn?t he have stuck to the 3 stop strategy and overtaken that Fart-land-n-toe Alonso. I mean if he?s as good as he suggests then why doesn?t he. Or is he worried someone will purposely crash into him !!

I agree. People praise Schumi as the best river ever, so you would think he would be capable of making one simple overtake, especially with a better car when other drivers make them all the time, rather than relying on Brawn to calculate how he can drive through the race with the minimun risks. He is lame. Not a real racer.
And by the way, on some post some know-it-all said that schumi makes race strategies while he is driving the race. Sorry to disappoint you, but he doesn't. It's Brawn that make the calculations. Or do you suggest that schumi is driving the car and while doing it he takes all the variables into count and sees the race as a whole and then calculates it all up? Hell no. He just listens what he hears from the radio. Brawn and the new guy they hired this season to calculate strategies have computer programs that calculate the best strategies by feeding in the variables. Everything to them is a matter of mathematics. They probably even calculate how, when, how many times and in what positions Schumi and his wife have sex. To avoid all risks and maximize the success rate.

hate to tell you this but neither Schumi nor any other drivers in F1 is "lame". F1 is what it is: pinnacle of motorsport utilizing latest technology in materials and electronics... which means that at some point, lot of the things that drivers did in a car in the past is done by other superior means(computers, electronics, etc). This goes for all drivers in F1, not just Schumi. For you to say that Schumi is not a "real racer" is ignorant. (if thats the case, none of the drivers in F1 are real racers, since basically ALL the teams rely on similar technology.)