F1 sold to Liberty Media. Bernie Out?

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Vasconia wrote:
djos wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
Elecric engines? I don´t this coming as early as 2020. I dont see a return to V8/V10 engines either. Brawn´s words are difficul to decipher so we must wait.
He's saying F1 should step back from being overly road relevant and ensure the spectacle is preserved.

Personally I'd like to see the energy recovery systems dropped and the current V6 gain a second turbo. That would dramatically lower the price and increase the the fun factor imo.

This is imo what he's driving at, he's stating that it doesn't matter that road cars are going full electric, F1 is the full Monty, it's a show and a technological tour de force.
It woud be a mistake to drop the energy recovery sistems because this is what the manufacturers want to develop. I am afraid that some of them would leave the sport if this happens.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... ng--horner

RB wants noise and action.

maybe they should really try 2-stroke. if not road relevant then do it right :mrgreen:
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Vasconia wrote:
He's saying F1 should step back from being overly road relevant and ensure the spectacle is preserved.
Nowhere in the article is that said. It can be interpreted in literally every direction.
Personally I'd like to see the energy recovery systems dropped and the current V6 gain a second turbo. That would dramatically lower the price and increase the the fun factor imo.
It would indeed lower costs, but increase fun factor? How?
This is imo what he's driving at, he's stating that it doesn't matter that road cars are going full electric, F1 is the full Monty, it's a show and a technological tour de force.
Then removing ERS is counter productive
djos wrote:It woud be a mistake to drop the energy recovery sistems because this is what the manufacturers want to develop. I am afraid that some of them would leave the sport if this happens.
This. F1 would suddenly become much less marketable for the manufacturers as the car industry moves towards cleaner engines.
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wesley123 wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
djos wrote:It woud be a mistake to drop the energy recovery sistems because this is what the manufacturers want to develop. I am afraid that some of them would leave the sport if this happens.
This. F1 would suddenly become much less marketable for the manufacturers as the car industry moves towards cleaner engines.
Exactly =D>
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bernie finally out! BRING BACK V10!!! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain
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poolboy67 wrote:bernie finally out! BRING BACK V10!!! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain
Odd post, wasn't Bernie the main person who wanted to bring back the V10's?
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Facts Only wrote:
poolboy67 wrote:bernie finally out! BRING BACK V10!!! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain
Odd post, wasn't Bernie the main person who wanted to bring back the V10's?
Yea but if you want to be part of the cool crowd you need to blame all the sport's problems on Bernie and Tilke.

Then you have demand to bring back the things that were in F1 when you were a kid because everything was better back then.
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With Bernie out, I hope they finally make a decent "free" F1 app. It wouldn't take much...Just put the live race info, that they already share (for free) on F1 website, inside the app. The current app doesn't show live race info unless you pay a ridiculously expensive premium feature. (Not mentioning the bad interface, bugs and crashes of the app.)
Sorry if this is OT.

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Tim.Wright wrote:
Facts Only wrote:
poolboy67 wrote:bernie finally out! BRING BACK V10!!! #MakeFormula1GreatAgain
Odd post, wasn't Bernie the main person who wanted to bring back the V10's?
Yea but if you want to be part of the cool crowd you need to blame all the sport's problems on Bernie and Tilke.
Don't forget blaming the FIA for things they are unable to do.

Because, you know, you gotta fight The Man, man.

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dmjunqueira wrote:With Bernie out, I hope they finally make a decent "free" F1 app. It wouldn't take much...Just put the live race info, that they already share (for free) on F1 website, inside the app. The current app doesn't show live race info unless you pay a ridiculously expensive premium feature. (Not mentioning the bad interface, bugs and crashes of the app.)
Sorry if this is OT.
Like 1-2 euro per race, is that ridiculously expensive? I would say that it is very good value for what it adds! Especially if you use it on a tablet where more information can be shown! Personally I never had it crash, what phone/pad are you using?

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Here's the easy solution to getting the best engine:

You can have any engine you like, but you're limited to 105kg of <insert spec> fuel for the race.

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Moose wrote:Here's the easy solution to getting the best engine:

You can have any engine you like, but you're limited to 105kg of <insert spec> fuel for the race.
I began calculating how many electrons you'd get and i got a bsod... You owe me an apology ;)

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I wonder how long it is going to take everyone to start hating Ross now that he is part of the governing group?

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I think the current v6 with KERS, but centrifugal supercharged for the noise. Adding a front wheel KERS/differential that bolts in the nose should get away from the efficiency loss of the turbo/ increase of load from the supercharger.

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ecapox wrote:I wonder how long it is going to take everyone to start hating Ross now that he is part of the governing group?
Depends on how big a target he paints on himself, just look at Jean Todt, he's dam near invisible so no-one really rags on him.
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Sniffit wrote:
Moose wrote:Here's the easy solution to getting the best engine:

You can have any engine you like, but you're limited to 105kg of <insert spec> fuel for the race.
I began calculating how many electrons you'd get and i got a bsod... You owe me an apology ;)
If a team wants to make its car heavy by putting a big battery in it, they're welcome to. The energy density of any current battery isn't close to that of gasoline though, so it's probably not a great strategy (other than as an energy recovery system).