2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

[namao]

Alonso on Instagram

We can do 1.19 lap time

Chassis is good.

ALO is one of the best drivers in the world, but he is also a good smoke-seller.

He knows that's a lie.

[Alonso Fan]

Alonso on Instagram

We can do 1.19 lap time

Chassis is good.

ALO is one of the best drivers in the world, but he is also a good smoke-seller.

He knows that's a lie.

He's probably twisting the truth, but we all know that he knows a lot more than all of us

[bauc]

Alonso on Instagram

We can do 1.19 lap time

Chassis is good.

ALO is one of the best drivers in the world, but he is also a good smoke-seller.

He knows that's a lie.

He's probably twisting the truth, but we all know that he knows a lot more than all of us

When was this posted?, I cant find it on his Instagram profile

[Chanman141]

I can't find the timestamp where he mentions the lap time , but the full video has been uploaded to youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLbjxTdlFRA

[proteus]

I believe I made quite clear that the Honda engine is lacking, but it's nonsense that you're blaming it on just that. As if the chassis is fantastic... Top manufacturers drive through turn 3 full power, as well through turn 9. McLaren has to back off. You are seriously blaming that on the engine's drivability? Poor drivability is for sure visible in the third sector, but the drivers having to go down on the throttle in the long corners (with the downforce levels we have this year) shows the car itself isn't on the level of the front runners either. I remember that the chassis was hailed in previous years as well. Folks said it was "all due to the Honda engine" and McLaren themselves said their chassis was one of the best, but fact is that McLaren showed bad pace at any track or circumstance where a good chassis would show.

This season is starting the same as the last two, and I ain't buying it anymore. Both McLaren and Honda are not performing.

I don't think you understand my post fully or have been paying attention to how the engines power and drivabilty affects how a car can be utilised.

McLaren haven't necessarily build a bad chassis but it will never be as good as it can be until the Honda engine can be refined more in every area.

Also the source of all this McLaren building a bad chassis is just terrible and unfounded.

Mclaren had the smallest gap to Pole last year at the power circuits and the largest gap to pole on the Chassis circuits. Consistently.

Look at Mclaren's performances in Monaco vs Spa. There is nothing unfounded about this, it is well documented and at the end of the season we had multiple posts admitting Mclaren had a fundamental problem with the rear of their car meaning they always ran more downforce (and drag) then their opposition to try and overcome it.

If the Honda engine itself would be such a beast, than they would not been having problems with Renaults, Manors and ocasionally Haas and Sauber on the straights. Heck, STR should be miles behind in those long straights, but they were able to keep the speed. Ofcourse the car had problems - it was a track specific car which worked fantastically at some races and very bad at the others (which is becoming a Mclaren standard in recent years), but u cant say that the engine was the only thing making them getting them to their results. I would say that similar as the chasis, the engine and its electric part were a very track specific as well. It didnt like slow tracks with little breathing space and it certanly didnt like tracks with little brake zones and fast curves. In the end both the chasis and the engine had its shortcomings and when their comfort zone was found they were 4th force in the field, When they both were out of that zone, they were good enough only for 11th place downward. But i allow myself to claim, that if the Honda engine would produce the same amount of power and consistancy like a Mercedes hybrid of FI and Williams, Mclaren would be infront of them both in the overall standings, even challenging the Ferrari at some venues - which is far from perfect, but it would be considerable improvement over the dreadfull 2015 season.

[GoranF1]

ALO is one of the best drivers in the world, but he is also a good smoke-seller.

He knows that's a lie.

He's probably twisting the truth, but we all know that he knows a lot more than all of us

When was this posted?, I cant find it on his Instagram profile

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-oja ... 017-930617

[GoranF1]

Alonso on instagram.....


FIRST WEEK OF TESTING

"We had a difficult week in terms of reliability, too many problems on day one. We completed a pretty good filming day on Sunday and then on Monday during the real test we had complications, but in the end, thats what preseason´s about, trying to learn and improve the car, and we were improving throughout the week and hopefully next week and in Australia we are in a better situation. I have prepared all winter to reach the top. I´m better than ever and I am enjoying every lap because the cars give you a feeling of speed. Alas, having engine reliability problems, has slowed our development, "said Alonso.

"I think we can do long and consistant long runs with the engine at full power. Last week we could´ve done long runs, but with the loss of the first day, we thought it was better to do short runs, since it was better to do five lap laps with 18 different settings instead of eight outings of 15 laps each. It was a difficult week but we have collected a lot of useful information. "



SECOND WEEK

"I think there will be no problems with overtaking this year. Following the cars up close will be more difficult because of the turbulence, but the overtaking is regulated a little by the tyre compounds. If you come out of box with soft against another that has chose mediums, you will overtake him without problems ".

"McLaren and all the other teams will have new bits and parts to test next week. In the first week you hide all the new parts and the true evolution of the car is shown in Australia."



RED BULL, TITLE FAVORITES FOR ALONSO

"The tests are useless. In my opinion, the strongest team to challenge for the World Cup is Red Bull right now. Nobody bets on them because they´re trusting lap times, but they have not seen anything. They do the same to us every year. At Australia they arrive with a car that has nothing to do with the one shown during tests. I´m not one to make predictions and it will be difficult to beat Mercedes coming as favorites.



GOING TO MERCEDES IN 2017, IT WAS NEVER AN OPTION

"I understand the pessimism because we have not had a good week, but there are teams that have done less laps and with worse times, and I think it does not make much sense to speculate. I think we could have made a low 1:19 easily, but just like everyone else , maybe Mercedes could do a low 1:17, so lets not trust lap times ".

"When Rosberg left they made calls to everybody and well, it was not an option to go to Mercedes in 2017 because I have a contract with McLaren. I do not know what they´re talking about in Mercedes about 2007, which are things that do not make much sense."
THE MCL32 CHASSIS

"The chassis is going well. I think it has a good base and I could feel good grip on corners, and like all teams, what we are testing in Barcelona has nothing to do with what we will run with in Australia, which will be a chassis with even more grip ".



IS A PODIUM POSSIBLE FOR 2017?

"I wish I was on the podium this year, I'm going all out for it. I am very excited to achieve good results. I feel super good, today I have done 80 minutes of continuous running plus gym workout. I'm pumped!. "
RENEWAL
"we'll see about that. Theres nothing new in regards to this matter. I wont be thinking about next year until summer, so for now my focus is on racing. I still have a lot of racing years in me, but lets see how things turn out. I'm only 35 years old and I have many years of competition within me. "


RETURN TO RENAULT, DISCARDED

"I wouldnt like to drive for Renault again, for real. They will always be in my heart and I will always be their follower, but with the new rules we must first see which team dominates and then you would choose to pilot for the winning team. I hope Renault is able to win again, but for now I just concentrate on winning with McLaren. "

ABOUT YOUR NEW TEAM PARTNER

"Stoffel (Vandoorne) has enormous talent so I expect a very fast teammate. There's a great atmosphere and I've known him for three years, we'll have a good time and hopefully we can compete."

THE NEW TIRES

"Good impressions with the new tires, I have not tried them in the wet, but on dry they have more grip and last longer, and they look more spectacular thanks to the width."

MORE FUN RACES IN 2017?

"I do not think races are going to be more fun." The new rules affect cars, not the show. It's still a 'normal' F1 in that sense, there have been no revolutions for 2017. "

WHICH CIRCUIT WILL SEE THE MOST CHANGES THIS YEAR?

"In Monaco, Singapore ... urban circuits will be more fun this year thanks to the extra grip."

LIBERTY MEDIA

"I think during the tests we saw the new videos and more aspects in social networks, and thus far we have not received notifications that we can not publish videos, something that in the past we could not. I'm sure they'll have new ideas and I'm happy with the changes.

SUPPORT OF THE FANS
"I have never stopped feeling the support of the fans. I have been in F1 for many years and I have been fortunate to be in competitive places almost all the time and in these last few championships that hasnt been the case, I´ve felt the same or even more support."
MANORS DEMISE
"Unfortunately, F1 is like this, it's difficult to remain and it's tremendously difficult to be economically viable. Small teams have it worse, and if they´re fighting for the last positions...

MOTORS V10
"I miss the V10 engines. Surely we all miss their sounds. F1 doesnt deserve the current engines but surely they will be the future, so you have to get used to it. "

FORMULA E
"The truth is that I do not follow it much or seen it live to be able to have a say. Maybe it is the future, but for now I think it lacks a bit, but surely they are fun races because they are more accessible for people because most of them are “street/urban” races We have to give it time. "

YOUR BOOK
"We are in the first talks and the first preparations. It is under way and I tell you that soon we will have

[dr_cooke]

He's probably twisting the truth, but we all know that he knows a lot more than all of us

When was this posted?, I cant find it on his Instagram profile

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-oja ... 017-930617

Actually he says they could have done lo 19s EASILY, but maybe Mercedes could be on low 17s. Interestingly, though he mentions beating MERC will be very difficult, he points RB to be fighting for championship

Besides that, he says the car has good grip now but will have much more come Melbourne.

Interesting statements

Edit: Oops, full translation posted already. Sorry for being late...

[OviJohn]

When was this posted?, I cant find it on his Instagram profile

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-oja ... 017-930617

Actually he says they could have done lo 19s EASILY, but maybe Mercedes could be on low 17s. Interestingly, though he mentions beating MERC will be very difficult, he points RB to be fighting for championship

Besides that, he says the car has good grip now but will have much more come Melbourne.

Interesting statements

Edit: Oops, full translation posted already. Sorry for being late...

Yeah Goran beat me to my own translation as posted on Autosport forums

[GoranF1]

http://soymotor.com/noticias/alonso-oja ... 017-930617

Actually he says they could have done lo 19s EASILY, but maybe Mercedes could be on low 17s. Interestingly, though he mentions beating MERC will be very difficult, he points RB to be fighting for championship

Besides that, he says the car has good grip now but will have much more come Melbourne.

Interesting statements

Edit: Oops, full translation posted already. Sorry for being late...

Yeah Goran beat me to my own translation as posted on Autosport forums

Thank you for those......i see Alonso's comments as the light at the end of tunnel.

[PhillipM]

Alonso on Instagram

We can do 1.19 lap time

Chassis is good.

ALO is one of the best drivers in the world, but he is also a good smoke-seller.

He knows that's a lie.

He knows it's the truth, that you think it's a lie says more about you than him.
The trouble is, the Merc and the Ferrari look like they have a 1m17 in them.

[godlameroso]

If they do I'll be very surprised, I don't see anyone breaking below 1:18's

[RS200E]

I believe I made quite clear that the Honda engine is lacking, but it's nonsense that you're blaming it on just that. As if the chassis is fantastic... Top manufacturers drive through turn 3 full power, as well through turn 9. McLaren has to back off. You are seriously blaming that on the engine's drivability? Poor drivability is for sure visible in the third sector, but the drivers having to go down on the throttle in the long corners (with the downforce levels we have this year) shows the car itself isn't on the level of the front runners either. I remember that the chassis was hailed in previous years as well. Folks said it was "all due to the Honda engine" and McLaren themselves said their chassis was one of the best, but fact is that McLaren showed bad pace at any track or circumstance where a good chassis would show.

This season is starting the same as the last two, and I ain't buying it anymore. Both McLaren and Honda are not performing.

I don't think you understand my post fully or have been paying attention to how the engines power and drivabilty affects how a car can be utilised.

McLaren haven't necessarily build a bad chassis but it will never be as good as it can be until the Honda engine can be refined more in every area.

Also the source of all this McLaren building a bad chassis is just terrible and unfounded.

Mclaren had the smallest gap to Pole last year at the power circuits and the largest gap to pole on the Chassis circuits. Consistently.

Look at Mclaren's performances in Monaco vs Spa. There is nothing unfounded about this, it is well documented and at the end of the season we had multiple posts admitting Mclaren had a fundamental problem with the rear of their car meaning they always ran more downforce (and drag) then their opposition to try and overcome it.

Yes, the fundamental problem at the rear was the engine.

I'll state my point for the final time: a chassis cannot be at its full potential with such an underperforming engine.

Whether a chassis is designed with a fundamental problem like the McLaren did in 2013, you would never know because the Honda engine is so unrefined that it's worse than than any problem that McLaren could have in the fundamental design of the chassis.

It should not be underestimated how unrefined the Honda has been and also was at the first test of 2017.

Also the argument of performance on tracks with long straights vs tight tracks is flawed, it's not as simple as that and hasn't been for a long time.

[Alonso Fan]

I'll take back what I said earlier. He seems to be telling the truth. It's all a matter of context. (or the lack of it in the first post mentioning the lap time)

[DiogoBrand]

I didn't want to be "that guy", but since the start of the McLaren-Honda parnership, I think we can ignore pretty much every statement about the car's performance that comes from within the team. They love to exaggerate in optimism when talking to the public.

It's better to just let the results speak for themselves.